On the 22nd of November in 1963, my mother was working in the kitchen listening to a small transistor radio. As I walked through the kitchen, she announced that the president had been shot. Since that event, people of my generation have been intrigued by the whole circus of antics and attitudes regarding the cult of Kennedy. Few of us have been convinced by the Warren Commission Report that Lee Harvey Oswald acted alone.
Kennedy had many enemies at home and abroad. John Birchers cheered his demise, overtly at first, covertly later. They turned their antipathy for Kennedy into an asset by supporting the Soviet Plot conspiracy theory to counter the John Bircher Plot conspiracy theory. Birchers had Oswald's sojourn to the USSR in their arsenal, while their detractors claimed that Jack Ruby had mafia ties. When the Eisenhower/Kennedy attempts to assassinate Castro came to light, Birchers used it to insinuate a Castro connection in retaliation.
Skepticism toward any lone gunman theory received support after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. It turned out that the perpetrators had ties to the acquitted assassin of Meir Kahane. The FBI made a case for a lone gunman in that trial despite evidence of a conspiracy discovered in the perpetrator's apartment. If official investigators could have deceived the public in the case of Kahane's killing, could they not also have deceived the public in the Kennedy case?
From a prosecutorial position, a lone gunman case is easier to convict. Conspiracy dilutes the guilt of the perpetrator by turning him into a tool. It also clouds the minds of jurors by confusing them with a complex scenario. This expedient applies to the Kahane case, but not to that of Kennedy. In that case, there may be more sinister reasons to favor a lone perpetrator (think John Birch Society).
Tea Partiers might insist that the government's long record of lying to the public is a good reason to cut off its funding. A more rational approach would favor greater transparency. (This is seen somewhat in the recent overt use of assassination.) If Tea Partiers were sincere in their boycott, they would take it to the polls as well.
What is your take on political assassination? Do you believe the Warren Commission? Do you have faith in the integrity of official investigators?
Kennedy had many enemies at home and abroad. John Birchers cheered his demise, overtly at first, covertly later. They turned their antipathy for Kennedy into an asset by supporting the Soviet Plot conspiracy theory to counter the John Bircher Plot conspiracy theory. Birchers had Oswald's sojourn to the USSR in their arsenal, while their detractors claimed that Jack Ruby had mafia ties. When the Eisenhower/Kennedy attempts to assassinate Castro came to light, Birchers used it to insinuate a Castro connection in retaliation.
Skepticism toward any lone gunman theory received support after the first World Trade Center bombing in 1993. It turned out that the perpetrators had ties to the acquitted assassin of Meir Kahane. The FBI made a case for a lone gunman in that trial despite evidence of a conspiracy discovered in the perpetrator's apartment. If official investigators could have deceived the public in the case of Kahane's killing, could they not also have deceived the public in the Kennedy case?
From a prosecutorial position, a lone gunman case is easier to convict. Conspiracy dilutes the guilt of the perpetrator by turning him into a tool. It also clouds the minds of jurors by confusing them with a complex scenario. This expedient applies to the Kahane case, but not to that of Kennedy. In that case, there may be more sinister reasons to favor a lone perpetrator (think John Birch Society).
Tea Partiers might insist that the government's long record of lying to the public is a good reason to cut off its funding. A more rational approach would favor greater transparency. (This is seen somewhat in the recent overt use of assassination.) If Tea Partiers were sincere in their boycott, they would take it to the polls as well.
What is your take on political assassination? Do you believe the Warren Commission? Do you have faith in the integrity of official investigators?
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Date: 22/11/11 16:41 (UTC)Some folks...
Date: 22/11/11 17:12 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
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Date: 22/11/11 18:07 (UTC)Oswald couldn't have fired that many shots that fast? On camera an 80+ year old expert was still able to reproduce the shot sequence within the allotted time. Oswald's military record showed exemplary marksmanship scores.
The 'magic' bullet? Not magic, but a result of the staged seating within the car Kennedy was in, changing the relative position between him and Connally. Kennedy's seat was raised and shifted.
and on.. and on..
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Date: 22/11/11 18:44 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
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Date: 22/11/11 18:57 (UTC)He and I are in agreement on this one.
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Date: 22/11/11 22:35 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
Date: 23/11/11 16:32 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
Date: 23/11/11 17:27 (UTC)Of course he did, most crooks protest their innocence from the moment they're arrested regardless of actual guilt.
The only thing that gives that claim any credibility was that he was shot before he could stand trial.
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Date: 23/11/11 16:30 (UTC)BTW, the argument for a "poorly-done" job could easily be applied to the assassination of Meir Kahane. Its poor management did not demonstrate that the culprit acted alone, but that his co-conspirators were just as inept as he was.
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Date: 23/11/11 20:00 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
Date: 28/11/11 16:21 (UTC)Re: Some folks...
Date: 22/11/11 19:04 (UTC)As UL stated, one does not need conspiracy to kill anyone, the president included. We like to believe it does in cases like this because it makes us feel secure that the universe can't possibly be that unpredictable. It's similar to the 9/11 conspiracies in that an apparent hole (and in many cases is only the appearance rather than the reality) gets filled in by the mind's attempt to rationalize the unthinkable.
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Date: 22/11/11 18:08 (UTC)We will never know the whole truth about what happened, it has been far too long, and the minds eye tends to remember what it has been told for decades, not what it actually remembers.
JFK — Crabmeat Scene
Date: 22/11/11 18:47 (UTC)One of my favorite scenes is New Orlean's D.A. Jim Garrison meeting with attorney Dean Andrews (who had helped Oswald with some legal issues, but in the context of the movie, at the behest of the assassination's planner, Clay Bertrand.) While Dean Andrews spins his lies, Stone uses flashback scenes to show the real 'truth.' John Candy's performance is brilliant.
Re: JFK — Crabmeat Scene
Date: 22/11/11 19:01 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 22/11/11 18:54 (UTC)Hood College?
Date: 22/11/11 19:01 (UTC)Re: Hood College?
Date: 22/11/11 20:13 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 22/11/11 19:41 (UTC)I think Oswald was alone. But my Norman Rockwell America of mom, apple pie, and Howdy Doody ended with President Kennedy's assasination.
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Date: 22/11/11 19:44 (UTC)I certainly hope...
Date: 23/11/11 16:22 (UTC)I am curious. I have heard accounts of people celebrating the death of Kennedy. Did you have any such experience, even peripherally?
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Date: 23/11/11 01:29 (UTC)(And that would've been the real Oswald, not the Venusian replicant that appeared fleetingly in the premiere of Doctor Who the following day and then mysteriously vanished from every subsequent airing and video/DVD edit since. J. Edgar Hoover was doing a fairly inept job of trying to dress up as the latter LHO for many years afterward whenever he went to his little parties.)
(no subject)
Date: 23/11/11 03:25 (UTC)Are you interested in my 6 volume DVD series where I prove the world trade center never went down?
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Date: 23/11/11 03:58 (UTC)I knew it!
Date: 23/11/11 16:24 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 24/11/11 00:35 (UTC)When politicians die for any reason, I laugh myself silly. When the common people get angry about their politicians being assassinated, I laugh even more. It's almost like medievel peasant serfs mourning the death of their feudal lords.
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Date: 28/11/11 16:23 (UTC)