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Some fiery shit right here. Shuts them other suits right up proper.


Questions for the group: Is he right regarding Obama's (and ours, collectively) only hope of turning this around? Is Congressional election system so money corrupt that we, the people, must literally fire them from their jobs? 

Does anyone know anything about his references to previous presidents bypassing Congress LIKE A BOSS and going to the people, even at the risk of alienating his own party (even more than he has)?


And what about this new bank idea of his, loaning business capital @ 2%? Which side claims that idea?

EDITED FOR CLARIFICATION: Folks, checks and balances are not the issue here. Not is the abolition of Congress and establishing  Executive dictatorships. That is silly talk.

The issue is the speaker in the video suggests the POTUS, who is free to speak directly to the people, should rally the people against the Congress incumbency.

Some think he has to have Congressional oversight to do so. Er, no. He is not passing laws here, folks.

What the gentleman in the video is suggesting is that Obama talk directly to the people as our LEADER, to point the blame at the entire congress, including his party (80% of the country agree). He has the bully pulpit.

The purpose of the bully pulpit being to rally the people to purge Congress of incumbents, replace them with 'clean' legislators (read clarifications in my comments to those below who misinterpreted the intent), who will pledge to work in a non-partisan manner to get the country back on track (whatever that is; another post for another time)

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Date: 10/8/11 22:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
He's requesting that we make Obama a dictator, allowing him to bypass Congress entirely? Yeesh. Pretty extreme.

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Date: 10/8/11 23:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
I interpreted it as going to the American people without fear of political retribution and tell things like they are without worrying what corporate campaign financiers and special interest groups will think. He kinda did it during the health care and debt ceiling debates, but not to that extreme. He wanted to change Washington, and he can do it by using his voice to expose corruption in congress at the possible expense of his political career.

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Date: 10/8/11 23:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Yeah, but what good would it do? Presume he goes to the American people. Ratigan was talking about more than just complaining to them about the system, he was talking about substantive changes in policy that, legally, would require congressional approval. There's where we'd need Obama transformed into a dictator of some sort.

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Date: 10/8/11 23:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Well, he was all over the place. I'm not sure the two concepts were connected. I'd have to watch it again. I watched it earlier this morning and got lost about halfway through it.

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Date: 11/8/11 00:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
He also talked about separating money from politics which isn't going to happen. Even firing all congressmen in their next elections won't rid the parties of their ability to cherry pick favorable replacements.

He also neglects to see that the same structure that allows congress to be bought, infects the executive branch as well.

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Date: 11/8/11 00:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
But don't you dare compare 'em to facists! ;)

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