[identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
We often hear the assertion that economic crises occur as a result of personal incompetence, greed and bad credits. Never mind the structural inconsistencies in a society. Now, two economists (Michael Kumhof and Romain Ranciere) are proposing a different approach in explaining these phenomena. They've explored an aspect of the US market which is often overlooked, but which is closely related to bankruptcy. And that is the relative level of financial disparity between the various layers of society.

They investigated the economic data around the two biggest financial crises in modern history (1929 and 2008). In both cases they concluded that the crisis happened when the "scissor" between the rich and poor was opened too widely, until at some point it turned out that the top-5% layer was in possession of 34% of the wealth. That was coupled with a simultaneous increase of the share of private credits - in fact it doubled.

They argue that the logic is very simple. In order to sustain the tempo of consumption, people with weaker financial capabilities were compelled to take credits, which eventually they were unable to pay back. Meanwhile, the wealth of the rich (I'm sorry, did someone say "job creators"?) was increased to such an extent that they would invest significant amounts into presumably highly profitable (but also very volatile) credit deals. When the credits stopped being served by a significant number of debtors, the whole system would collapse.

The authors are also proposing some solution to the situation. They argue that workers and employees should be paid such a level of salaries as to allow them a minimum level of living standard without taking credits. Now, the objection is that with increasing their income their needs would automatically increase as well, and this does make sense, but only to some limited extent. The data shows that the usual consumption levels of the wealthy would rise at a slower rate compared to their income, and the remaining extra money they'd rather invest into speculative deals and luxurious items, as opposed to actually fueling the engine of the economy.

Sources:
http://www.smarterearth.org/content/inequality-leverage-and-crises

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Date: 7/8/11 16:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahvah.livejournal.com
The minimum level of living standard still requires job stability to justify buying a house. Today it's more sensible to rent.

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Date: 7/8/11 16:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] a-new-machine.livejournal.com
Yeah. The day the American Dream went from "a better life than my parents" to "a house, two cars, a 50" tv, a pool in the backyard, and new siding every five years for curb appeal's sake" was a bad day.

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Date: 7/8/11 16:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahvah.livejournal.com
Start your own firm and enjoy the American Dream.

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Date: 8/8/11 03:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
Or get a government job.

Government logic

Date: 7/8/11 16:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korean-guy-01.livejournal.com
So we will reject reality and assume everybody currently has the same standard of living.

"Sorry kids, government official ddstory lowered my salary to a living wage and government official yahvah says it makes more sense to rent! Time to move out of our 3 bedroom house (payment of $1300/month) to a 2 bedroom apartment (market adjusted price of $1400/month). We were living beyond our means anyway!"

Re: Government logic

Date: 7/8/11 16:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahvah.livejournal.com
Did I gloss over something in this post explicitly stating lower the wealthy workers' salaries to a minimum level?

Re: Government logic

Date: 7/8/11 19:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] korean-guy-01.livejournal.com
How many businesses fail within 5 yrs? What does that mean profit-wise? Who will be targeted if the lowest paid employees must obtain a significant increase in pay, based on whatever "standard living wage means?"

Re: Government logic

Date: 7/8/11 20:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
That's how I read this point:

They argue that workers and employees should be paid such a level of salaries as to allow them a minimum level of living standard without taking credits.

Re: Government logic

Date: 7/8/11 20:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yahvah.livejournal.com
Maybe I'm not following but there's an objection to increasing their income.

Re: Government logic

Date: 8/8/11 02:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] musicpsych.livejournal.com
I read that as saying that everyone's income would increase or decrease until it got to that "minimum level of living standard without taking credits." It would increase for some, decrease for some. Though I may have misread that, and I didn't read the source... I would have expected it to say "allow them at least a minimum level of living standard."

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