Are we being held back?
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The more I experience reality, the more I am convinced Earth is a lifeboat: a survival colony for homo sapiens who fled natural disasters from changes in the solar system. Those planets (Venus and/or Mars or who the fuck knows/cares) are now uninhabitable. Earth was not so much environmentally inhabitable, as just as dangerous as fuck place; full of sub-species that eat and kill (many perhaps ferried over to Earth from the others like rats on a ship?).
The hope of survival was that humans were capable of re-inventing space travel (we did!) and could continue on infecting the universe with our bacteria laden island-bodies (which, on an icky level are what we are).
But we have GOVERNMENT in control of space exploration funding. Now, the primary function of any sentient entity, especially government (the 'bacteria' of the government 'body' being bureaucrats, which sounds like 'bacteria' in Ukranian!), is to survive and grow.
Government needs people in order to survive. If we have de-planed the planet, and are off gallivanting across the known universes, how can they tax and boss us around?
QUESTION: Could there be motive for a government agenda (or those who monopolize energy generation, same thing) to keep space exploration in a pre-adolescent phase, given for each dollar generated for the space program regenerates $8 for the public sector's benefit?
No links, just an old guy's nostalgic observation remembering when each manned rocket launch was an 'event'.
Since we are talking all weird shit today
Oh and gay marriage.
Oh and gay marriage.
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Date: 19/7/11 00:54 (UTC)That's an image of a sunset. As seen from Mars.
We are living in the future.
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Date: 19/7/11 02:06 (UTC)Erm
Date: 19/7/11 02:14 (UTC)I will have to look up what you are talking about. I used to live for cheezy 50s SF movies :D.
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Date: 19/7/11 03:00 (UTC)Oh 60s cheezy SF is a whole other thing, especially since they had Carridines in so many...gag me with a spoon!!!!
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Date: 19/7/11 01:45 (UTC)Well, there's our problem right there! We need to abandon planets altogether and mine the asteroids for material to build space habitats with!
"Could there be motive for a government agenda (or those who monopolize energy generation, same thing) to keep space exploration in a pre-adolescent phase, given for each dollar generated for the space program regenerates $8 for the public sector's benefit?"
A public that pressures them to do so. Same public that thinks NASA gets 20% (http://si.academia.edu/RogerLaunius/Papers/93299/_Public_Opinion_Polls_and_Perceptions_of_US_Human_Spaceflight_) of the nation's budget.
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Date: 21/7/11 22:40 (UTC)The government provides the bread in the form of welfare and various forms of social assistance. It provides circuses directly through political "discourse", international conferences and the ensuing riots, wag the tail wars, politicians' chest thumping, pokey chest, political theatre, etc. It provides it indirectly through the entertainment industrial complex. Broadcasters are regulated by the government, and one has only to look at the Murdoch fiasco to see that the two are in bed with each other.
conspiracy brain
Well, the post was tagged "tin foil hat", so I figured I had a bit of leeway.
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Date: 19/7/11 04:28 (UTC)Did you know that all (99.99%) of the immigrants from China, Vietnam, India, Bangladesh, Sudan, etc.... they all come from CITIES!!! Then they move to our cities. So none of them are career farmers in the old country and they're certainly not farming here. There's a water shortage, a arable land shortage, a shortage of farmers and farm hands. People are starving yet we're eating better then ever. Where's all this food coming from?
The future is in goats. All these immigrants are used to goat meat and goat milk. Beef is just so foriegn. And North Americans looking for exotic dishes are seeing goat more and more often. And what are we going to take with us on interplanetary flights if we ever go? Cattle take 9mo to reproduce. Goats are economical.
And China knows the USD is worthless. China could dump all the US Treasury and kill the economy. It doesn't because it would kill it's own in the process. So it buys tracts of land in Africa with USD... no negotiations but at the asking price. The sudden dump of USD on the global market lets the dollar fall, making oil affordable. Chinese are the largest single group of immigrants to Africa. They farm, mine and drill for oil.
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