[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
The people who made the film Agora about the legendary heroine of science, Hypatia of Alexandria, did not want to make an anti-Christian movie. This is probably why they omitted key features of the history of the times. In an effort to not offend the sensibilities of people who would not watch the film in the first place, they insulted the intelligence of the audience that would view it. We can uncover the most important key event by looking at another historic figure portrayed in the film: Synesius of Cyrene, the source of much that is known about Hypatia.

Synesius was elected to the metropolitan see of Pentapolis, a collection of Greek colonial cities on the coast of what is now Eastern Libya. He had never attended a formal training program in the relatively recent tradition of Christian orthodoxy. He lacked experience in any priestly office of the Church. He openly admitted to heretical views and insisted that he would not abandon them as chief bishop for the region. His election was confirmed by Archbishop Theophilus despite all of these disqualifications. He had something that the Church needed and its corrupt leaders were willing to bend the rules to obtain it.

Agora shows Synesius opposing the antihero Cyril in his political machinations to accumulate power and influence. The history records show Synesius as dead by then. The records also show something left out of the film: a contest for the seat of archbishop after the death of Theophilus. The power struggle would have made the film too long and too unflattering to the orthodox cause. A significant portion of the orthodox opposed the ordination of Cyril.

The movie also omits the expulsion of heterodox clerics which preceded the pogroms against Jews depicted in the film. In his expulsion order, Synesius accuses the Eunomians of "stealing" souls from orthodoxy. This reveals his slave owning mindset as he attempts to keep the Christian congregation from escaping the Orthodox plantation. This charming piece of history was left out of Alice Gardner's account of the life of Synesius as she added some anti-heterodox fluff to rationalize this self-defeating move on the part of Synesius. It is no wonder that Hypatia did not respond to the letters of Synesius after this vicious and unwise power play.

What do you think of the way that history is airbrushed in order to conceal the sinister nature of Christian orthodoxy?

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Date: 13/7/11 16:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
Biggest airbrushing: Hyapatia was at least 60 years old when she died, not Rachel Weiss's comely Hollywood preserved 41.

Re: Good point.

Date: 13/7/11 16:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
And we all know how good Egyptian dental hygiene was in the 5th c.

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Date: 13/7/11 16:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
I think we can forgive that dramatic license.

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Date: 13/7/11 17:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
Helen Mirren isn't good enough actress, or something?

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Date: 13/7/11 17:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Sorry she was far busier making classics such as the remake of Arthur.

(GAG)

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Date: 13/7/11 18:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
Wasn't it Michael Caine who couldn't attend the Oscars, where he won for Best Actor for Hannah and Her Sisters, because he was filming Jaws: The Revenge?

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Date: 13/7/11 18:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Bigger airbrushing: nobody in the film speaks the kind of Greek that would have been spoken in the 5th Century, particularly by the learned people of the time. It's just like how the real Julius Caesar did not speak British English with an RP accent.

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Date: 13/7/11 18:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] policraticus.livejournal.com
Well, not every movie can be Apocolypto or The Passion of the Christ.

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Date: 13/7/11 21:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
At least they didn't sex her up.

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Date: 13/7/11 16:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
I've seen Agora, and it doesn't paint a flattering picture of early Christianity. So I'm not sure it was intentially trying to "airbrush history." The story was about Hypatia, not Synesius, and they had limited time to tell her story. Not to mention pacing issues, etc.

We see this in historical movies all the time. I don't think there's a concerted effort to rewrite history, but more about telling an interesting story.

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Date: 13/7/11 18:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Not least because to be historically accurate everyone would have had to speak varying dialects of Greek and heathenry would have included the disembowelment of animals, gaudily painted buildings that make the eyes bleed, the hatred by Christians and Greeks to Jews in Ancient Egypt, with Alexandria having one of the largest Jewish communities of its day, *and* it would have had to bring up awkward realities like the heathens accepting and in fact inventing the ideas of the astronomer Ptolemy.

People tend to overstate the degree to which Late Antiquity Hellenism was big on the learning thing.

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Date: 13/7/11 17:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peamasii.livejournal.com
Was watching Agora just today on cable for the first time, LOL. I couldn't help but notice many ways in which it failed as a film, although I didn't realize it was very inaccurate historically as well. Still it was somewhat enjoyable to watch.

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Date: 13/7/11 17:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Rotten tomatoes audiences give the movie a 64 percent approval. It has 51 for critics, not too shabby for such arcane material.

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Date: 13/7/11 18:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Agora overstates the degree of anti-intellectualism in 4th Century Christianity. Once the pagan leaders were persecuted into oblivion the Church felt insofar as it prevented any learning outside its rather totalitarian restrictions on what was and wasn't permissible, learning was all right. There's a reason Islam was the center of learning in the early Medieval period and that reason starts with c and ends with y and is a synonym for being a religion of partisans of a translated word meaning annointed.

That Islam, which arose from the more learning-phobic climate of early state Christianity was that pro-learning argues that the Abrahamic ideal has nothing to restrict learning. Judaism's history argues this more decisively, but it tends to be ignored relative to the other two.

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Date: 13/7/11 20:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikarugenji.livejournal.com
What you saw in Christianity was an initial period that was very open to intellectualism and learning, in the way they adopted a lot of current "science" and philosophy of the period -- Aristotle, Neoplatonism, etc. But after this initial period things stultified and they stopped being so open to new things. The 4th century was still before the New Testament had even been fully canonized and defined.

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Date: 13/7/11 21:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
No, what you saw was a new bunch of repressive murderous sonsobitches replacing Diocletian and Galerius's murderous brutality with the new and improved version. Christianity rose through brute force, no more and no less, and unlike Islam Christianity was initially very fond on ensuring that reality became what it wanted it to be. It was not very successful at this for the first millennium of trying, though.

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Date: 13/7/11 20:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Loved Rachel Weisz in Agora. All I could say about this.

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