[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
So this is what being interested in the deficit and cutting taxes looks like, eh? Seems to me more that the Tea Party is Christian Right politics with a thin Fiscal Conservative veneer:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/02/montana-bill-to-ban-all-local-lgbt_23.html

http://www.salon.com/news/islam/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/02/23/tennessee_islam_law_felony_bill

And can anyone answer me how this remotely is compatible with Lawrence v. Texas? I thought Tea Partiers were also about defending Law and Order and Society As It Is? To me, this is just one of many examples of how the "Tea Party" is nothing but a front for the religious politicians of the Republican Party. Oh, and as to the second article: how does making Shariah Law a felony reduce the deficit and shrink government? I thought Supply-Side was Voodoo Economics, this type of deficit reduction is even harder to understand.

But if we take Tea Partiers at their word, and they are nothing but honest and honorable people, they are always about the deficit. When it's:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/indiana-official-jeff-cox-live-ammunition-against-wisconsin-protesters


This it's always about the deficit.

When it's advocating that President Obama is not a US citizen, it's always about the deficit, for Tea Partiers are nothing but honest and honorable people and when they say it's all about the deficit, surely we should believe such honest defenders of the US as it is, the Constitution as it was:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/01/26/83026/tea-party-birthers-movements-somewhat.html

http://teapartynationalism.com/the-blogbri-news-updates-and-morei/item/131-tea-party-nation-founder-declares-himself-a-birther

When it's condemning something their own children are involved as re-education camps, it's all about the deficit and reducing spending, for Tea Partiers are honorable and honest people, and they would never say anything but honest and honorable things:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/michele-bachmanns-son-joins-group-she-once-called-a-re-education-camp/

So yes, the Tea Party *is* all about the cutting the deficit and less spending, and somehow, in some way these brave champions of White League thuggishness freedom and justice for all will reduce the Federal budget to an entirely balanced and well-founded fiscal base, and belief that the President is not a citizen, that live ammo should be used on strikers, that Shariah law should be a felony, and eliminating all the progress (however slow and halting it's been) for LGBQTI individuals since the 1970s will make the US Budget balanced.

Oh, and it might good to remember who the father of the Tea Party's sugar daddies was:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30065386/Fred-C-Koch-Going-Off-On-A-Bircher-Rant-Newspaper-Clipping-1964

There is indeed nothing new under the Sun.

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Date: 24/2/11 12:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
I thought Bush was a monkey fascist Illuminati Antichrist whose image should be burned in order to set free the spirits of Earth. You got me confus'd now.

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Date: 24/2/11 14:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
You know how 9/11 made everyone more frightened of terrorism despite the fact that the actual risk from dying of terrorism didn't rise all that much and remained pretty much negligible compared to lots of other more common and probable risks? That happens because it was an outrageous event, and the outrageous draws undue and often disproportionate attention to itself, especially when someone can use it to fuel their biases, and baby, if there's a political angle, you better bet that the outrageous will be blown entirely out of proportion and used for confirmation bias like nothing you've ever seen.

So I'll put it forward again, that you're going to need something more solid than citing a handful of the outrageous (including one from salon, one from mediaite, and one from motherjones) and start providing solid, meaningful, analytical, perspective before it will be worth its salt.

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Date: 24/2/11 16:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com
Humans are poor risk estimators. See: financial crisis.

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Date: 24/2/11 20:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
Depends on the circumstances. Intrade prediction markets often beat out the experts, but then, the people betting on the predictions are actually putting something of their own on the line. There are conditions, but if the conditions are met, people en-masse can be very good at estimating risk. (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Wisdom_of_Crowds)

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Date: 24/2/11 21:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com
I was mostly referring to the tendency to underestimate black swan events (I guess that's the popular parlance now), and thus plan inadequately for them.

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Date: 25/2/11 02:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Well, they're feeling disenfranchised from the politics of the country. Whether that's true or not, that concern is legitimate and people should be concerned that these people feel they need to "take their country back". Not to mention that the standard of living for most Americans has been stagnant for 30 years; remember most of these people grew up in the golden age of America. Now, there may be disagreements as to the why's and who's of these concerns, but they are legitimate. The dialogue between the US body politic is disgraceful, it's surprising to me how so many people who are worried about similar things can be cajoled into continuously voting for people who work against their interests; this isn't a left/right thing either, from what I can see there's only a half dozen people in government in the US who give a shit about their constituency. The system is well broken.

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