[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
So this is what being interested in the deficit and cutting taxes looks like, eh? Seems to me more that the Tea Party is Christian Right politics with a thin Fiscal Conservative veneer:

http://joemygod.blogspot.com/2011/02/montana-bill-to-ban-all-local-lgbt_23.html

http://www.salon.com/news/islam/index.html?story=/politics/war_room/2011/02/23/tennessee_islam_law_felony_bill

And can anyone answer me how this remotely is compatible with Lawrence v. Texas? I thought Tea Partiers were also about defending Law and Order and Society As It Is? To me, this is just one of many examples of how the "Tea Party" is nothing but a front for the religious politicians of the Republican Party. Oh, and as to the second article: how does making Shariah Law a felony reduce the deficit and shrink government? I thought Supply-Side was Voodoo Economics, this type of deficit reduction is even harder to understand.

But if we take Tea Partiers at their word, and they are nothing but honest and honorable people, they are always about the deficit. When it's:

http://m.motherjones.com/politics/2011/02/indiana-official-jeff-cox-live-ammunition-against-wisconsin-protesters


This it's always about the deficit.

When it's advocating that President Obama is not a US citizen, it's always about the deficit, for Tea Partiers are nothing but honest and honorable people and when they say it's all about the deficit, surely we should believe such honest defenders of the US as it is, the Constitution as it was:

http://www.mcclatchydc.com/2010/01/26/83026/tea-party-birthers-movements-somewhat.html

http://teapartynationalism.com/the-blogbri-news-updates-and-morei/item/131-tea-party-nation-founder-declares-himself-a-birther

When it's condemning something their own children are involved as re-education camps, it's all about the deficit and reducing spending, for Tea Partiers are honorable and honest people, and they would never say anything but honest and honorable things:

http://www.mediaite.com/online/michele-bachmanns-son-joins-group-she-once-called-a-re-education-camp/

So yes, the Tea Party *is* all about the cutting the deficit and less spending, and somehow, in some way these brave champions of White League thuggishness freedom and justice for all will reduce the Federal budget to an entirely balanced and well-founded fiscal base, and belief that the President is not a citizen, that live ammo should be used on strikers, that Shariah law should be a felony, and eliminating all the progress (however slow and halting it's been) for LGBQTI individuals since the 1970s will make the US Budget balanced.

Oh, and it might good to remember who the father of the Tea Party's sugar daddies was:

http://www.scribd.com/doc/30065386/Fred-C-Koch-Going-Off-On-A-Bircher-Rant-Newspaper-Clipping-1964

There is indeed nothing new under the Sun.

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Date: 24/2/11 00:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
It certainly doesn't mean what you want it to mean, that much is obvious.

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Date: 24/2/11 00:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
Well, I'd think that if you're going to make claims about what the Tea Party claims, you'd at least try to show some kind of evidence that the persons of whom you're speaking actually belong to the Tea Party. As rasilio observes, link 2 and 3 make no mention of the Tea Party so seems you're rushing to conclusions or at least not sharing all your evidence with us.

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Date: 24/2/11 01:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
Well, even if you were right, I don't think Rasilio and Gunslnger are the only ones who'd appreciate a bit more evidence than what you've presented here.

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Date: 24/2/11 08:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
LOL. You haven't at all. But whatever.

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Date: 24/2/11 20:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
I didn't make either of those claims, you just thought that's what I was claiming. Same as how you think the Tea Party is something that isn't related to what the people in the Tea Party know it is.

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Date: 24/2/11 01:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
You haven't exactly applied critical thinking skills in making your case from those links meaning what you say they mean any more than Glenn Beck does to support his by taking a-little-bit-from-here, and a-little-bit-from-there, and voila! The horror! THE HORROR!

You even have a bit of his flair for the hyperbole.

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Date: 24/2/11 01:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
Yet, I have my own encounters with actual members of the Tea Party who have never mentioned these issues at all in the course of political conversations. If these messages are somehow directly connected to the Tea Party in general, they're doing a lousy job in diseminating it or influencing their base to do the same, from my own experience.

Glenn Beck takes quote-pulls from successive video clips of those belonging to groups he opposes, and forms his theories on them in almost the exact same way that you've been doing here. So if you're actually better at using reasoning, deductive or inductive, than he is, I suggest you start demonstrating it, because the error in rhetorical tactics appear to be identical.

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Date: 24/2/11 15:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
Wow, it's like you live in a state that's only about an hour from where I live.

I know those people exist. I know others too. Show me something which I can attach actual meaning to.

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Date: 24/2/11 01:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] jerseycajun.livejournal.com
And in no way am I denying that the Tea Party has crazies, and that some percentage of the people that it helped get elected share some of the craziness as well. Throwing a spotlight on the crazy isn't illuminating. Illuminating with daylight, showing everything at once (either through statistical or other more rigorous analysis) would actually have some meaning attached which would be more persuasive.

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