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talkpoliticsI have heard people say that they are sometimes ashamed to be Americans, in the light of what Bush did, or even the fact that Bush got elected under the most questionable of circumstances.
I love my own country, it's traditions and its cultural achievements - even so, I loath what the British government has done in recent decades. Not neccessarily the Blair government, or the present Tory coalition government- it just seems that whoever was working 'in the national interest' at the time did a lousy job, and I'm ashamed of what they did to our nation's reputation abroad.
For the record, it is not just the BP oil spill. Many years ago, there was a demonstration outside the Libyan Embassy in London, and a machine gun, inside the building , was fired from the embassy into a crowd of dissedents demonstrating against Gadaffi and the Libyan Government outside.
That burst of gunfire also killed a female police officer, WPC Yvonne Fletcher. She was 23, as I recall. the killer walked away without charges being pressed. Diplomatic immunity.
And when a bomb exploded over Scotland , in a place called Lockerbie, it was a Libyan who was tried and sentenced in a court of law for this cowardly terroist attack.
So, it really sticks in my throat that BP, and other oil companies have used their influence over the years to get our Government to be nice to Gaddaffi, and then use these 'good diplomatic relations' to go to libya and make vast profits.
There was a great scene in a movie once, where Hugh Grant played a British Prime Minister, and said "ours is not a big country, but it is a great country". But that was just a movie.
Yes, we are a great country. We did not just give the world William Shakespeare, we gave it Winston Churchill and Tom Paine. We gave America many of its Founding Fathers. We gave Magna Carta and the example of free people who were prepared to go on strike and on marches- often in the face of brutal repression - in order to demand basic human rights like the right to vote and free assembly.
And a great country like ours deserves a great government. A government that is big enough to stand up to oil companies and other profiteers who stain the beaches of the America with slicks of oil and tyrants like Gaddaffii who stain the streets of London and many other cities with pools of blood.
it's time we in Britain had a government that was not driven simply by profits and share prices but ws prepared to regulate industries for the benefit of those who worked in them and those who live in the shadow of their operations, instead of just the business owners.
And it's time we reorganised the UN and made it possible to for international law to have some impact. if we don't , the multinational companies will run the world. seriously, I think they already have too much clout.
The UN should be freezing Gaddaffis assets. Mubarak, it is reported, has fled to Britain . funny how so many deposed dictators come here. i feel that if any democratically elected Government in egypt demands his return to put him on trial, that we have a duty to hand him over.
Britain , and the UN , have got to make a stand, or lose their standing in the world.
Gaddaffi, however he wants to spell and pronounce his name , has got an awful lot of blood on his hands, including the blood of his own people. he really has it coming to him , and I hope that whoever is in charge will see to it that he doesn't end up in a private villa somewhere in Sussex.
I love my own country, it's traditions and its cultural achievements - even so, I loath what the British government has done in recent decades. Not neccessarily the Blair government, or the present Tory coalition government- it just seems that whoever was working 'in the national interest' at the time did a lousy job, and I'm ashamed of what they did to our nation's reputation abroad.
For the record, it is not just the BP oil spill. Many years ago, there was a demonstration outside the Libyan Embassy in London, and a machine gun, inside the building , was fired from the embassy into a crowd of dissedents demonstrating against Gadaffi and the Libyan Government outside.
That burst of gunfire also killed a female police officer, WPC Yvonne Fletcher. She was 23, as I recall. the killer walked away without charges being pressed. Diplomatic immunity.
And when a bomb exploded over Scotland , in a place called Lockerbie, it was a Libyan who was tried and sentenced in a court of law for this cowardly terroist attack.
So, it really sticks in my throat that BP, and other oil companies have used their influence over the years to get our Government to be nice to Gaddaffi, and then use these 'good diplomatic relations' to go to libya and make vast profits.
There was a great scene in a movie once, where Hugh Grant played a British Prime Minister, and said "ours is not a big country, but it is a great country". But that was just a movie.
Yes, we are a great country. We did not just give the world William Shakespeare, we gave it Winston Churchill and Tom Paine. We gave America many of its Founding Fathers. We gave Magna Carta and the example of free people who were prepared to go on strike and on marches- often in the face of brutal repression - in order to demand basic human rights like the right to vote and free assembly.
And a great country like ours deserves a great government. A government that is big enough to stand up to oil companies and other profiteers who stain the beaches of the America with slicks of oil and tyrants like Gaddaffii who stain the streets of London and many other cities with pools of blood.
it's time we in Britain had a government that was not driven simply by profits and share prices but ws prepared to regulate industries for the benefit of those who worked in them and those who live in the shadow of their operations, instead of just the business owners.
And it's time we reorganised the UN and made it possible to for international law to have some impact. if we don't , the multinational companies will run the world. seriously, I think they already have too much clout.
The UN should be freezing Gaddaffis assets. Mubarak, it is reported, has fled to Britain . funny how so many deposed dictators come here. i feel that if any democratically elected Government in egypt demands his return to put him on trial, that we have a duty to hand him over.
Britain , and the UN , have got to make a stand, or lose their standing in the world.
Gaddaffi, however he wants to spell and pronounce his name , has got an awful lot of blood on his hands, including the blood of his own people. he really has it coming to him , and I hope that whoever is in charge will see to it that he doesn't end up in a private villa somewhere in Sussex.
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Date: 23/2/11 16:21 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 23/2/11 16:25 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 23/2/11 16:26 (UTC)Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 17:14 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 17:20 (UTC)Behold Philippopolis/Pulpudeva/Kendryssos/Eumolpis/Odrysssa/Trimontium/Pldin/Filibe/Plovdiv.
Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 17:23 (UTC)DUDE WHAT'S THIS TOWN!?!?
Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 17:27 (UTC)Sort of gives you quite a perspective, doesn't it?
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Date: 23/2/11 18:26 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 22:09 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 22:41 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 23/2/11 23:03 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 02:23 (UTC)Wjat is it called now, BTW?
Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 10:52 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 11:30 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 11:35 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 12:42 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 13:48 (UTC)I have never been to eastern Europe , but would love to go there. i don't speak the language, though. i can get by on french and german in most places, but I don't suppose that will be any use in Bulgaria.
Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 15:39 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 03:39 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 10:53 (UTC)Re: Nice lesson for ya bud:
Date: 24/2/11 12:39 (UTC)