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http://www.dailykos.com/story/2011/02/19/946995/-Obama-administration-rescinds-Bushs-conscience-rule-for-medical-providers

The Obama administration on Friday rescinded most of a 2008 rule that granted sweeping protections to health care providers who opposed abortion, sterilization and other medical procedures on religious or moral grounds.

Kathleen Sebelius, the secretary of health and human services, said the rule, issued in the last days of the Bush administration, could “negatively impact patient access to contraception and certain other medical services.”


It's good to see that common sense CAN sometimes prevail in DC. There isn't a place for conscientious objectors in medicine.The patient is the one who makes the decisions which is as it should be. I know I wouldn't want to have to go hunting for an atheist doctor if a medical choice I wanted to make conflicted with that of my regular doctor.

Plus, it's a kick in the balls to the religious right which is always nice.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Well that clears that up, for me at least.

I think its confused in part because there are vocal groups out there, particularly feminist groups, that think that Roman Catholic hospitals shouldn't be allowed to refuse either.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Oh I'm sure there are. But we, as responsible, mature and diplomatic people, seeking wisdom and peace, would find any outcome forcing any side to do anything so draconically imposed to be offensive to our deliberate sensibilities.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Off-topic, is there are word to describe being both sarcastic and perfectly serious at the same time?

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Or more precisely, being sarcastic, and perfectly in earnest, at the same time.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Ha, I don't know. I just listen to Captain Jean-Luc Picard. He never sets me wrong.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
After seeing Patrick Stewart on the Extras, I always imagine his persona sitting behind Jean-Luc's forehead, smiling inside and thinking thoughts like "Good show old boy, that made us sound utterly magnificent" whenever Captain Picard says anything like that.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Here's a link to the segment, in case you've never seen it:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fg_cwI1Xj4M

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 07:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com
I think "half jest, whole earnest" might be what you're looking for.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
And, of course, you can't actually force them to do anything, since the Catholics would shut down their hospital in a heart-beat if any such thing were to occur. Instead, we should strive to find the most agreeable and productive measures which would preserve hospitals and their services.

Re: Um,

Date: 23/2/11 00:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrsilence.livejournal.com
Certainly. Or at least measures that don't prejudice their ability to provide hospitals and their valuable services in a way agreeable to personal freedom.

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