[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Advice on how to handle applications from deaf jobseekers, from people working in recruitment and human resources. You can’t ‘discriminate’ -- instead:

I just probably would have let her fill it out. You write a note on the back of it that said ‘not a fit.’

Just accept it and don’t call. You can’t tell her that. Handicapped people, they have more rights than anyone in the world. You just have to accept her application and then just don’t call.

You have to be very careful. In today’s world, they’ll cut your hands off.

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ABC News did its own version of Candid Camera, recently. Several actors enacted a scene in a coffee house – two deaf job applicants applying for a kitchen position, and a manager telling them not to bother. I’m happy to relate that many customers reacted with disgust to what they were hearing. A few even confronted the manager and one coffee-drinker demonstrated the bracing merits of making a scene by doing it from across the room. But…

Three people, all of them in either recruitment or human resources, scurried up to the manager afterwards to advise, in discreetly lowered voices, on the “correct” way to handle it. The correct response, they explained, is to just accept the application and then not call the applicant.

I doubt most black or Hispanic viewers, most disabled viewers, or many female viewers, are shocked by this revelation. Those comments about the influence of the deaf as a group (“they have more rights than anyone in the world, ” “They’ll cut your hands off”) are especially familiar. When I worked in corporate America, I frequently heard wildly exaggerated anecdotes painting women, blacks, the disabled, etc. as powerful forces before which employers must cower. Why this amazing clout has still not translated into equitable income and employment levels is a mystery.

There are two points I’d like to make. First, this is why Affirmative Action is necessary. Employers and recruiters are quite capable of writing “don’t bother” on applications and, when asked about the dearth of minorities, women, etc., batting their eyes innocently and insisting that they just couldn’t find anyone in those groups who were qualified. AA acknowledges that reality. Without it, laws against racial and sexual discrimination would barely be worth the paper they’re printed on.

And second, anyone looking for a job, including white males with no physical disability, should be concerned about this. More and more employers are screening out the jobless or those with credit problems. “Not a fit” can end up being written on your application too, not because of your qualifications or your ability, but because you are unemployed and/or in debt.

Crossposted from ThoughtcrimesThoughtcrimes

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Date: 9/2/11 17:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmax3.livejournal.com
An HR person who gives that kind of an advice is not worth his salt.

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Date: 9/2/11 17:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Correction: A HR person who gets caught giving that kind of advice is not worth his salt.

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Date: 9/2/11 17:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmax3.livejournal.com
No. An HR person who gives that kind of advice harms his company in multiple ways, even if he doesn't get caught.

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Date: 9/2/11 23:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
That is kind of like saying that a lawyer who advises his client to keep the commission of a crime secret isn't worth their salt. The lawyer isn't there to prevent crime, they're there to keep their client out of jail.

Maybe it's just my low opinion of HR as a profession (I'm willing to compare them with lawyers after all). Many are of course very nice people, but their main job is to maximize the screwing over of employees while keeping turnover at a minimum.

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Date: 10/2/11 02:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pmax3.livejournal.com
a lawyer who advises his client to keep the commission of a crime secret isn't worth their salt

I don't think that is an apt comparison. It is a lawyer's job description to do everything to minimize the penalty that their client faces, unless they are encouraging something illegal like purjury. On the other hand, an HR professinal's job is, in part, to ensure that all people practices are in accordance with the law. If he does the opposite, he is not a n HR-person but rather a qualified swindler and one who is tacitly hired for that job.

I can understand the poor perception about HR as a profession. I admit that HR itself is to blame for it for the most part. But continuing with that kind of an HR department is not an option for you unless you as a company are in it only to make a quick buck and get out after duping everybody - your customers, employees and the government.

their main job is to maximize the screwing over of employees while keeping turnover at a minimum

Now that is harsh!

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