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talkpoliticsHaven't seen anyone post on this recently but I thought it's pretty interesting that Ron Paul and Ralph Nader are pursuing a progressive libertarian alliance.
On the face of it, such an alliance spans a much larger difference than the coalition operating in the UK at present. But the more one thinks about it, the more sense it makes. There are obvious things like opposition to the war, views on Israel, scepticism about the Fed, views on drug enforcement, abortion (in many instances) and gay marriage and even immigration policy that those a bit further to the left and right of center often agree on.
But what about economic policy and/or health care reform? Isn't there a deep gulf there that's unlikely to allow for any kind of cooperation? On the face of it, yes. But there's reasons to think that it's not as profound as we might think. I think both progressives and libertarians are eager to pursue solutions that don't kowtow to corporate interests and once we move that lobby and its profound effect aside, there could be room for a lot of compromise. What if health care reform hadn't started with an attempt to appease the insurance and drug companies but instead tried to draw up a health care plan that bridged the ideological gulf? I daresay we'd have had far more success and come out with a far more effective plan. For example, I think I could have lived with a plan along the lines that Milton Friedman once proposed. Furthermore, I think that common ground uncovered in discussions of proposals like a negative income tax or the FairTax might hint at a way to revise tax code in such a way that progressives and libertarians could come up with something acceptable to both sides. Moreover, the interesting thing about such a party is that people could ambitiously support it without concern about cannibalizing their favourite moderate party too heavily. It would take disillusioned voters from both parties.
What kinds of chances would a progressive-libertarian alliance have of getting elected? How effectively might they be able to govern together. On what issues would they have the most difficulty reaching consensus?
On the face of it, such an alliance spans a much larger difference than the coalition operating in the UK at present. But the more one thinks about it, the more sense it makes. There are obvious things like opposition to the war, views on Israel, scepticism about the Fed, views on drug enforcement, abortion (in many instances) and gay marriage and even immigration policy that those a bit further to the left and right of center often agree on.
But what about economic policy and/or health care reform? Isn't there a deep gulf there that's unlikely to allow for any kind of cooperation? On the face of it, yes. But there's reasons to think that it's not as profound as we might think. I think both progressives and libertarians are eager to pursue solutions that don't kowtow to corporate interests and once we move that lobby and its profound effect aside, there could be room for a lot of compromise. What if health care reform hadn't started with an attempt to appease the insurance and drug companies but instead tried to draw up a health care plan that bridged the ideological gulf? I daresay we'd have had far more success and come out with a far more effective plan. For example, I think I could have lived with a plan along the lines that Milton Friedman once proposed. Furthermore, I think that common ground uncovered in discussions of proposals like a negative income tax or the FairTax might hint at a way to revise tax code in such a way that progressives and libertarians could come up with something acceptable to both sides. Moreover, the interesting thing about such a party is that people could ambitiously support it without concern about cannibalizing their favourite moderate party too heavily. It would take disillusioned voters from both parties.
What kinds of chances would a progressive-libertarian alliance have of getting elected? How effectively might they be able to govern together. On what issues would they have the most difficulty reaching consensus?
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Date: 23/1/11 01:38 (UTC)In America? None.
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Date: 23/1/11 01:50 (UTC)Bull Moose II?
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Date: 23/1/11 21:08 (UTC)I'll be over here doing what I can for my third party of preference.
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Date: 23/1/11 21:12 (UTC)I hope you are part of the change too.
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Date: 23/1/11 21:16 (UTC)I'm curious: what third party was started round 1980?
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Date: 23/1/11 10:34 (UTC)I noted that Paul and Kucinich have worked together in the past, and people like Gravel nominated as the LP Presidential candidate.
Oh, and recommended. Something that is deals with deeper practical politics and theory.
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Date: 23/1/11 17:48 (UTC)Zilch. The areas they overlap on are issues that very few people use as criteria at the ballot box.
As a cross-party, legislative voting bloc there's potential.
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Date: 23/1/11 20:11 (UTC)But, I also don't think he's very representative of the libertarian movement in terms of his opposition to abortion.
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