[identity profile] dv8nation.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://www.loweringthebar.net/2011/01/witch-now-a-legal-profession-in-romania.html

New legislation in Romania has made witch a legal profession and thus a taxable one. It seems it took this long for the Romanian government to get the votes together to do this because of politicians being afraid of being cursed by witches. Naturally, Romanian witches are protested and planning to curse the government. I don't think they've fully thought that out...


Anyway, amusing aspects aside, I'm rather appalled that fear of curses and witches actually held up legislation like this up for so long. I really don't know of anywhere in the first or second world where people who make their living by paranormal means don't pay taxes. I mean, can you imagine if the guys on "Ghost Adventures" used getting VERY suspect evidence of ghosts to not pay their taxes?

I think this is a prime example of the ill that irrational belief in superstition can do. Oh, and let's not turn this into a religion bashfest, folks. We're all adults here and we can conduct ourselves better than that.

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Date: 4/1/11 17:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Romania, eh? Must be they finally got Count Dracula to pay his taxes, then.

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Date: 4/1/11 17:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
What's the prime ill again? Romania not having some little tidbit of tax code in place about witches? Oh, that sounds terrible. Terrible!

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Date: 4/1/11 17:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Hey. It's Romania we're talking about. They eat mămăliga, after all.

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Date: 4/1/11 22:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
You haven't eaten mămăliga, then.

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Date: 4/1/11 17:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Those sangomas in SA are pretty influential, in my observation. Zuma frequently refers to their advices before taking on a major policy. They spill some goat's blood and examine the entrails, and then he always gets it right. No kiddin.

(Gotta run to the kitchen to grab my amulet, kthxbye).

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Date: 4/1/11 17:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
It's about as effective as consulting economists and PhDs.

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Date: 5/1/11 00:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
Economists and PhDs probably lobbied to have the witches taxed, just to level the playing field.

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Date: 4/1/11 20:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Mind if this gets Dailyquoted?

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Date: 4/1/11 22:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
There's a link on the left side panel of the comm's main page.

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Date: 4/1/11 17:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mijopo.livejournal.com
On the bright side, won't that make it easier to write off money spent on cauldrons and brooms?

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Date: 4/1/11 17:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Is fear of teh ebil witches cursing joo any more irrational than the fear of healthcare death panels for grandma and fema deathcamps?

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Date: 4/1/11 19:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Magic could theoretically exist.

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Date: 4/1/11 19:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rasilio.livejournal.com
Magic can easily exist, it is all a matter of how one chooses to define it

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Date: 4/1/11 19:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
yes that too!

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Date: 4/1/11 22:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Magic is quantum fluctuations.

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Date: 5/1/11 19:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
oh, why must you always have a physical explanation for everything? :D takes all the mystery outta it :/

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Date: 5/1/11 20:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
I'm talking about magic.

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Date: 4/1/11 19:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
same goes for fema death camps too I hope.

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Date: 5/1/11 00:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
picky, picky...

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Date: 5/1/11 04:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
"Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic." -Art C Clarke

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Date: 4/1/11 19:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] reality-hammer.livejournal.com
It's a profession in the same way priest or druid is. Whether you want to tax those professions is up to each country to decide, I should think.

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Date: 4/1/11 20:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
This is obviously an unconstitutional encroachment of the tax collecting agency against the authority and purview of the Ministry of Magic!

Seriously though, I do have to view it as absurd that fear of curses would hold up legislation in the 21st century, but even speaking as an athiest humanistic skeptic here in my comfy western nation, it's hard to discount the power of belief in the supernatural, Even in my own country we've got Ghost Hunters on TV. I'm not so sure I'm willing to just handwave it away myself, because there is still so much we don't know that it's easy even for an athiest to fall victim to a "god of the gaps" position. The still widespread beliefs in the mystical healing properties of various endangered animal parts around the world, or in spirit possessions in some other places make this story a lot less surprising than it ought to be.

Also, the guys in the government probably all saw "Drag Me to Hell" and got understandably spooked. DO NOT DENY THE LOANS OF GYPSY WITCHES!!!

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Date: 5/1/11 09:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
This isn't surprising. Firstly, it is Romania. They're not quite up with modern rationality there, seriously. After all, it wasn't that long ago that they were still conducting crucifixions for the possessed (http://www.smh.com.au/news/World/Priest-ordered-possessed-nun-to-be-crucified/2005/06/19/1119119711417.html); and from my (albeit limited) experience with Romanians, this isn't an oddball position. The idea that people can be possessed by evil spirits is not unusual.

At least in Australia, witchcraft was decriminalised long ago. No, wait (http://www.theage.com.au/news/National/Victoria-clears-witches-for-takeoff/2005/07/21/1121539075041.html)..

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Date: 5/1/11 15:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] medea34.livejournal.com
last time i checked, here in Canada it was still a criminal offense to pretend to be a witch (it's an anti-fraud provision, protecting folk from unsavory fortune tellers and mediums). terribly silly. I would say, here, professional witches (like clergy in traditional faiths) would have a pretty good argument for tax exempt status - if they structured their dealings appropriately.

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