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Following last month's elections in Belarus security forces there have been rounding up journalists working for a Polish TV station claiming they helped organize opposition demonstrations.

The KGB and journalists getting hauled in for questioning are a really bad mix. Yeah, it's not a Russian-style rash of suspicious deaths and people flat out getting shot. But who knows just how bad things could get in Minsk.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Nothing like good ol' European tradition.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Next thing you know they'll be massacring Jews again, just like old times.....

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Date: 2/1/11 20:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Oh look, nice North-American traditions (http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Americas/2010/1230/Mexican-drug-traffickers-set-up-new-cells-in-Central-America) (Mexico is in North America, right?) I'd say North American traditions rock.

See what I did? Image

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Date: 2/1/11 20:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Actually the North American tradition would be to loudly and vehemently denounce the evils of the drug trade and then be busted having made one's fortune off drug money. It's a better tradition than secret policemen and repressive states. Bar the Jim Crow South and the Integralists that's been solidly an Old World Issue.

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Date: 3/1/11 00:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
You certainly seem on a bash America kick today, but I still like you anyway :D

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Date: 2/1/11 21:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Which part of Europe did you mean? Norway, Slovakia, Slovenia, Ireland or maybe Azerbaijan? There are countries in Europe, you know.

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Date: 2/1/11 21:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The parts of it that had experiences with totalitarian governments with midnight knock squads that took people out to be shot for crimes against the state. That would be all of it except Britain, San Marino, Monaco, Andorra, Switzerland, and Sweden.

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This is a type of comedy I tend to find rather funny: http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadBabyComedy. This comment was not a serious one, as Lukashenko takes himself seriously though I'd be hard-pressed to think anyone else who does.
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Maybe I'm dumb, but the way you so vigorously jumped to defend that argument shows me that either you're not being entirely sincere here, or it was just a knee-jerk comment that you weren't thinking while you were making, or you're just a very good actor. Given past occasions where you've gone to tremendous lengths into the same direction, you may forgive me if I still have my doubts.

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Date: 2/1/11 22:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
That comment was originally meant to be an over-the-top http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadBabyComedy joke. Unfortunately as the succeeding wank showed the only one that got the joke was Dvn8nation. It was a signal example of a miscommunication mistake.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
1. Cue the regular Russian apologists for a pure and secure Fatherland who'll explain this with how the ebil Juice are poisoning Madar Rasha.

2. Cue the regular Europe bashers who'll put a smug face and explain what a hell that enormous country called Erap is (actually I already seen some).

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Date: 2/1/11 20:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Erap-Bashers 1, Madar-Rasha 0. So far.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
It's a long evening.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
2) Less Europe-bashing than the same kind of regular nonsense whereby unpleasant people in the USA are made to typify all of the USA past, present, and future and people like Lukashenko are never acknowledged. What goes around comes around.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
I think it's just Europe bashing.

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Date: 2/1/11 20:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
and people like Lukashenko are never acknowledged

Citation badly needed. Again.

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Date: 2/1/11 21:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
3) Cue another kicking myself moment for trusting people would be able to tell http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadBabyComedy without a smiley of some sort. I guess stupidity, like insanity, is something even the gods contend against in vain.

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Date: 2/1/11 22:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
This too, was a http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Main/DeadBabyComedy statement because I figured that he'd missed the original statement being unserious and that he also was joking. So again, I make a mistake that creates a clusterfuck of wank and for that I apologize.

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Date: 2/1/11 21:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
The "regular" Europe bashers? Who ? Underlankers? And?

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Date: 2/1/11 21:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
He's more than enough (sometimes sounds like more than one person - probably a platoon of bashers).

Oh wait. You didn't recognize yourself there, I hope?

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Date: 2/1/11 23:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
Erap isn't one country, silly. It's divided into New Europe, the good side, and Old Europe, the bad side.

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Date: 2/1/11 23:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Disregarding the fact that a couple of misplaced remarks derailed this whole thing quite a bit into a tangential direction, it should be noted that Lukashenko's regime is the last remnant of a past that's being long forgotten in Eastern Europe; and hopes are that with his demise his people will judge him as harshly as only his own people possibly could. That's what has happened in a number of countries in the region, so it's a matter of time. Curiously, the harshest critics of Belarus are not at the western side of where the former Iron Curtain used to stay; they're on this side of it. And that shouldn't be a surprise for anyone.

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