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In what ways are poor people oppressed?


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Date: 23/11/10 05:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Healthy options like fresh veggies are still cheaper than unhealthy stuff sold in a packet for convenience

Not true. Come to East Oakland, I'll show you. No veggies in the stores, but tons of corn based packaged "food like substances" for less than two bucks per package.

And don't even think of wanting organic veggies unless you got the dough.

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Date: 23/11/10 05:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
East Oakland I can only assume is Stateside? I have no intention of visiting till it becomes a free country once more sorry.

I can imagine how in some places, healthy fresh would be expensive, but hell, here in supermarkets most "Fresh" stuff is imported, ripened by chemicals at the last minute and bounced/stacked by a Neanderthal simply to "Keep prices down", I know, Geppetto's son told me!

Maybe "they" are trying to starve you out of the sticks and into the city where they can spy on you?

Corn Farmers get Large subsidies ofver there per chance?

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Date: 23/11/10 05:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Corn is King.

I have no intention of visiting till it becomes a free country once more sorry.

I'm afraid I haven't made it sound very good.

Oakland isn't the sticks, its a city. Its just the poorer neighborhoods have no stores that stock veggies, but you can get 2buck vodka and such everywhere.

I think one of the worst cases of oppression of the poor that I can recall of is when the CIA put a couple of pounds of heroin on the Oakland streets by giving it to the heads of the black panthers to sell in the hopes of busting them sting style. Lots of people got strung out and died on that crap. The worst of it was that the heroin came from vietnam brought back in gi bodybag. The co-intel pro worked too and the pathers got fragmented by the heroin crap and they never gave a free breakfast for kids again.

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Date: 23/11/10 06:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
yeah I saw a movie about that :S looks like John DeLorean got off light, though if you can't trust your own agencies...

Hell I'm trying to escape my own Police-state, again something that the priveliged will never know about and the nouveau riche quickly forget (Or use to their advantage), corruption is rife.

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Date: 23/11/10 22:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I saw a movie about that

Mario Peeble's movie (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Panther_(film))? I saw it once, I remember thinking it was okay actually - if not a bit of a whitewash. Still, I aint seen a better film about that scene.

Most people were scared shitless of the Panthers. Local merchants described the breakfast collections as a mob shakedown.



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Date: 23/11/10 23:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] torpidai.livejournal.com
hmmmm, yeah, I guess it must be, same lead anyway lol:S (Didn't he have a role in an eastwood movie too?)

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Date: 23/11/10 14:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
And if you're poor much of the weekly funds go to food as it is. So convenience foods, which are cheaper, mean more precious money can be spent on other things. To people with sufficient funds it seems stupid, to people without them it's common sense. A kind of financial East Is East and West Is West, because neither tends to think about that in reference to the other.

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Date: 23/11/10 12:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pattyoplenty.livejournal.com
You are correct that healthier foods usually cost more than junk food. But there are some options, you just have to be smarter & more budget savvy while shopping to get the most bang for your buck when it comes to nutritional foods. I'm not saying it's not a challenge, but it doesn't have to all be bad options in the shopping basket every week. I think sometimes, it's just easier and less frustrating though to buy junk. And it tastes sooo good. :)

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Date: 23/11/10 20:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
it's hard to be savvy when your shopping options consist of the gas station on the corner, the 7-11 three blocks away, or the liquor store across from the 7-11.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pattyoplenty.livejournal.com
Well, a liquor store should honestly not be an option when a family is on a fixed income who should be worried about how to feed their kids. And no super markets anywhere, not even by bike or a short cab ride???

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Date: 23/11/10 20:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
have you ever lived in the inner city? People who buy property and invest in infrastructure don't tend to like to do it there.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pattyoplenty.livejournal.com
No, I personally have not. But my dad lived in one of the worst neighborhoods in Brooklyn in a cockroach infested apartment. He worked his butt off to get a free ride to college on scholarships & worked 3 jobs at a time afterwards to make sure he didn't raise his kids there.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
ok. So ask him how far away it was for the closest supermarket. Then ask him how long ago it was.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pattyoplenty.livejournal.com
I would, but my father passed in 2002. He lived there until the 70's though, so yes I realize my time frame given is out of date.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
ok.

Hmm... My google fu is weak, but I found this:

http://www.laane.org/poor-suffer-from-bad-food-choices

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Date: 23/11/10 20:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pattyoplenty.livejournal.com
Point taken.

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