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In what ways are poor people oppressed?


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Date: 23/11/10 02:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com
Just the two ones that often come to my mind:

1) Poor people have far more limited representation in our government due to the influence corporations and individuals with greater amounts of money. As a result, those who have power are too often deaf to those who have none (i.e., the poor).

2) Poor people often get sucked into a cycle in which higher education and / or a means to improve their lot in life seem out of reach due to low income, high crime and a system that doesn't do enough to actually lift the poor into the middle class.
Edited Date: 23/11/10 02:58 (UTC)

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Date: 23/11/10 04:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
The first is not oppression,(after all, Aboriginal Autrailians also lack representation in US politics) it is neglect, which coinicidentially leads to your second premise.

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Date: 23/11/10 05:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com
In terms of the United States, I consider citizens who are entitled to a political voice under our constitution being denied that voice due to their economic status a form of oppression, and one that I believe some in Government and many in the corporate world intentionally exploit.

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Date: 23/11/10 07:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Funny, I don't recall having anyone ask me for my paystub before I could vote.

As for your original comment, money is representational of influence. The only problem is with corporations.

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Date: 23/11/10 14:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mybodymycoffin.livejournal.com
He thinks voting means you're well represented!

Image

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Date: 23/11/10 17:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com
Most. Appropriate. Picture. Ever.

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Date: 23/11/10 20:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Congrats, you can put words in other people's mouths.

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Date: 23/11/10 17:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ninboydean.livejournal.com
Sure, it couldn't possibly be that accumulated wealth can buy off politicians (or private security, if you ever got your Brave New World dream).

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Date: 23/11/10 20:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Funny, I didn't say anything that would contradict that statement.

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Date: 23/11/10 06:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
Thy lack representation in Australian politics, which often means they don't have much of a voice; ie. they are oppressed. You should be talking about indigenous americans.

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Date: 24/11/10 19:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
You should be talking about indigenous americans.

The juxtposition was intentional.

Lack of representation does not equal oppression but it can lead to the factors in [livejournal.com profile] hey_its_michael's second premise which arguably do.

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Date: 23/11/10 07:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ofbg.livejournal.com
"1) Poor people have far more limited representation in our government due to the influence corporations"

Blame SCOTUS. Their decision in Santa Clara County v. Southern Pacific Railroad in 1886 gave corporations 'personhood', and all the rights that come with that designation, somehow out of the 14th amendment even though the word 'corporation' nor any of it's synonyms appear in the 14th, thereby opening the floodgates of corporate money for the politicians.

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Date: 23/11/10 17:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com
Oh, I already blame SCOTUS. The 5 majority in that decision reflects my point #1.

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