Jan Brewer Sez, "Stop Making Sense!"

[paft.livejournal.com]

Arizona Governor Jan Brewer, June 27, 2010:

Our law enforcement agencies have found bodies in the desert either buried or just lying out there that have been beheaded.

Christina Boomer to Jan Brewer, September 1, 2010:

Why wouldn’t you recant the comments you made earlier about the beheadings in the desert?

A CNN ticker headline refers to Brewer’s repeated claim tying illegal immigration to desert beheadings as a “quip,” as in, “’Beheading’ quip plagues gov.” This makes it sound as though poor Jan Brewer is being hounded for some off-the-cuff remark she made just once, in jest. As these clips show, it was a bit more than that.

Brewer’s reaction to the questions in the second clip is classic in that she appears to truly consider herself very hard done by. It’s as if she thinks it unfair for anyone to treat words as if they should bear any relation to facts. Those lousy liberal reporters are playing dirty pool by asking her to either back up what she's said or retract it!

The reality-based moonbats have struck again!

This has been a growing trend on the right, especially online. Watching the second clip, I half expected Brewer to burst out with "read what I said," or "look it up yourself!" or "that's a stoopit question!" or any other standard freeper response. Instead, she skipped over that and cut straight to declaring the press conference closed and flouncing away.

It looks as though, in Arizona and a few other places this next election is going to be a referendum on how many Americans actually feel like they have a stake in the real world. That Internet disconnect with reality which enables someone, in the unreal ether of online life, to declare the sky yellow, may or may not work on people who can look up at the offline sky and see what color it actually is. We'll see.


Crossposted from thoughtcrimes

Comments

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

http://www.nytimes.com/2010/07/29/us/29border.html

[il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com]

[paft.livejournal.com]

And this story bolsters her claim about beheaded bodies being found in the desert.. how?

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Got some prediction/expectation/gut-feeling about the results from that coming election? I'm betting on the reality-divorced people prevailing.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

The Democrat is down by double digits, there's no fear of that.

[meus-ovatio.livejournal.com]

It’s as if she thinks it unfair for anyone to treat words as if they should bear any relation to facts...This has been a growing trend on the right, especially online.
This has been a growing trend in general. In a society run by sophists, meaning is secondary to feeling and rhetoric. They're not interested in what they're saying, as much as they are interested in crafting nice sounding phrases and flattering clauses which make people feel self-righteous and put-upon. If you call them on the specifics of their language, they'll just give you a blank look as if you're an alien from Mars who speaks based on what words mean, rather than how they sound. Their use of language simply has an entirely different logic and goal. Don't get tied down with words. They're just placeholders to transmit shared assumptions and feelings. Pretty soon, we'll be able to fully communicate in this manner with little more than waves of hands and grunts and snorts.

[il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com]

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

This has been a growing trend in general. In a society run by sophists, meaning is secondary to feeling and rhetoric. They're not interested in what they're saying, as much as they are interested in crafting nice sounding phrases and flattering clauses which make people feel self-righteous and put-upon.

I agree with you, but the Left started it. :)

[abomvubuso.livejournal.com]

The natural evolution of communication ;)

[existentme.livejournal.com]

Lol, this is great. Those last three sentences, especially.

[paft.livejournal.com]

No, sorry it hasn't been "a growing trend in general," at least not here in the US. Yes, yes, I know that in order to maintain my "mainstream" credentials I'm supposed to nod sagely and say, "yes, the left is as guilty as the right" when it comes to outright lies and historical revisionism. The problem is, it's not. You don't hear the same kind of wackiness from liberals with the same kind of bully pulpit people like Limbaugh, Beck, Governor Perry, Governor Brewer, etc. enjoy.

And I've just had yet another example drop into my lap, with Governor Haley Barbour flat-out lyin' his fool head off about segregation and the south.

No, prominent liberals in this country haven't shown a habit of engaging in this kind of historical revisionism -- possibly because we don't have to.

[il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com]

Just gonna throw this out there

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

* A new Rasmussen Reports (http://www.rasmussenreports.com/public_content/politics/elections/election_2010/election_2010_governor_elections/arizona/election_2010_arizona_governor) statewide telephone survey finds Brewer leading Goddard by a 57% to 38% margin. That’s little changed from a month ago and two months ago. Just three percent (3%) prefer another candidate while five percent (3%) are undecided.

Re: Just gonna throw this out there

[ddstory.livejournal.com]

five percent (3%)

What did you mean, dear?

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

She's friends who own private prisons. Of course she can't allow for honesty in this, it might mean her conflict of interest with this new Arizona law comes out in the open. The Righties who like this won't give a shit, but that she maintains a law designed to increase the number of prisoners while standing to make a cut of it......

On the other hand this is the movement where Sarah "Troopergate" Palin is a heroine of "impeccable moral quality."

[headhouse.livejournal.com]

I thought the entire point of the arizona law was to deport illegal immigrants, not imprison them? I'd think this would piss off the people who own private prisons. So how's this have anything to do with private prisons?

[existentme.livejournal.com]

I don't know who her PR people are, but I wouldn't recommend anyone else use them - this whole deal could have been defused so much earlier. Now it will become a much larger non-issue than it ever deserved the right to be.

Obviously, immigration is a problem for border states, and obviously, sans heads or not, people are losing their lives in various endeavors to enter the country illegally.

That is the issue worthy of debate and worthy of a media voice, not some bullshit yakky sensation story about Brewer being unwilling to admit her error - that's nothing, comparatively, that's absolutely nothing.

[gunslnger.livejournal.com]

Depends on which side is gaining from the bullshit. Maybe both are.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

It's the headless horseman!

[reflaxion.livejournal.com]

I read the pre-cut post and thought, in jest, "Immigrants did it!"

Really, I should've seen this coming, but I honestly thought nobody would be THAT batshit crazy.

Silly me.

[reality-hammer.livejournal.com]

In other words the Democrats haven't found anything substantive to attack her over?

She's probably referring to this:

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2010/07/15/human-head-arizona-fuels-political-debate/

Perhaps Democrats should concentrate on races they can actually win.

[paft.livejournal.com]

From your link:

"at least one human skull has been found in the Arizona desert in recent years, officials said. But that was in 2008, and no evidence was found that indicated it was the result of a decapitation. Rather, the coroner in the case determined, it was torn from the rest of the body after death -- most likely by a wild animal."

Yeah, who cares if a candidate's lying her fool head off, throwing out inflammatory stories that imply residents in Arizona are in danger of being kidnapped and beheaded out in the desert.

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

I'm glad to be Larry, Darryl, and Darryl.

[debergerac.livejournal.com]

if attention is focused on jan brewer, nobody will pay attention to the real problem...

[rogerdr.livejournal.com]

It was a zombie outbreak. Thank the gods that somebody got to it fast enough.

[headhouse.livejournal.com]

It’s as if she thinks it unfair for anyone to treat words as if they should bear any relation to facts. Those lousy liberal reporters are playing dirty pool by asking her to either back up what she's said or retract it!

The reality-based moonbats have struck again!

This has been a growing trend on the right, especially online.

How did you type that without your computer from immediately going BSOD out of sheer irony?

[paft.livejournal.com]

Hello headhouse. Want a little attention?

scritch, scritch, scritch...

Now run along.

[op-tech-glitch.livejournal.com]

This (http://www.facebook.com/home.php?#!/photo.php?pid=277941&fbid=147564618609539&id=100000680059336) pretty well sums it up for me.

[paft.livejournal.com]

Can't open the link.