[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
So, I'm relatively certain of what I am about to tell you, but go ahead and disagree with me:

The US govt will, at some level, scan this post and it's contents to see if it's harmless or harmful based upon the fact that I am going to talk about freedom of speech and use a phrase which, I believe, will be picked up on some filter and be observed.

In 1989 the band known as "The Offspring" made a 12 song album, the last song of which was Kill The President
[it was a pretty dark album, overall; other songs include "Beheaded" and "Out on Patrol" and "Tehran" {originally titled "Baghdad" interestingly enough}



In a world without leaders
Who'd start all the wars?
The world that you're saving
Will always be yours

Kill the president
Voice the reason
Unify with that single line
Stop the man with the power
Of the government
A leader's not the center
Of democracy

In a world without leaders
Who'd make people starve?
The world that we're saving
Will always be ours

Everyone says
Well maybe I'll make a difference
Thinking they've got plenty of time
But you're squeezed
A little tighter everyday
Punished before you commit a crime

In a world without leaders
Who'd start all the wars?
The world that you’re saving
Will always be yours

Kill the president
Voice the reason
Unify that single line
Stop the man with the power
Of the government
A leader's not the center
Of democracy

America
All of your enemies
Come from within
But you lash out so
It is seen
Like some frightened child
In an angry world
Or the fall of Rome
Your demise comes
From your own hands

In a world without leaders
Who'd start all the wars?
The world that you’re saving
Will always be yours

In a world without leaders
We might have a chance
But we'll never see it
As long as there's
Kill the president
Kill the president
Kill the president
Kill the president
Kill the president
Kill the president now!


Now, they weren't a big name band when the album/song came out, and didn't hit it big till the 90's. There was, to my knowledge, no hullabaloo about it. And maybe I'm making mountains out of molehills by even talking about it.

But, let's not ignore what is right in front of our noses. A band was able to produce and sell their music, despite it's being...well, anti-establishment [for lack of a better term]

Now, let's be clear: *I am not inciting violence with this and I don't think the band was either. I am against the violent overthrow of our government/violent intimidation of our government officials*

This speech is protected by the first amendment and, I don't think, anybody would suggest such speech should be banned. (any takers?) I mean, if you look at the album, it's clearly social/political criticism [and *NOT* a call to action--although debate that if you wish] and that, to my knowledge, is clearly protected by the 1st amendment.

So, final points:

A) Do you think this post will be watched/screened by the govt?
B) Do you think this post *should be* watched/screened by the govt?
C) What do you think of the statement made in the song: "A leader is not the center of a democracy"
D) What do you think of the statement made in the song that begins at: "America, all your enemies come from within..." and ends with "your demise comes from your own hands"
E) What do you think of the song overall?
F) Should such a song be protected under the first amendment/freedom of speech?

and for my own safety/peace of mind:

G) Let me repeat how clear I wish to be: I want no harm to come to Obama/Bush/Clinton/Bush/Carter [we got any other living presidents?] nor do I want harm to come to any of our elected officials, regardless of how much I may disagree with their politics

edit:

if the first few responses are an indication, most people will tell me I need not be afraid

but C/D/F are just as interesting to me as A/B, which, I'm not that concerned with, but better safe than sorry, ja?

(no subject)

Date: 19/7/10 14:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Enders, meet Vidaloca, another person incapable of saying anything that Sean Hannity didn't say first, and the more meaningless it is, the better.

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Date: 19/7/10 15:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
For the record, I don't watch Sean Hannity. I've made that pretty clear in my blog when I called him a coward for offering to donate money to a charity for our soldiers if he withstood being waterboarded and then chickened out. Once again, your statement is a case of broad generalization.

Check your attitude at the door before you make any assumptions about me, Junior.

(no subject)

Date: 19/7/10 15:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Junior, guffaw, I have socks older than you.

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Date: 19/7/10 15:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
And there was also the charity he represented that was supposed to help families of fallen and wounded soldiers but none of the money went anywhere but in his pockets. Well good on you for that then. Still, I'd respect your opinions more if they weren't things like "Obama and the Democrats are far-left radicals who want to take America away from its people" when it's really obviously clear they aren't and they don't.

(no subject)

Date: 19/7/10 19:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreadfulpenny81.livejournal.com
Still, I'd respect your opinions more if they weren't things like "Obama and the Democrats are far-left radicals who want to take America away from its people" when it's really obviously clear they aren't and they don't.

Oh, you mean like when the Obama administration was asking people to report their neighbors by emailing flag @ whitehouse.gov, in violation of U.S.C. §552a? Or the disclaimer on the C.A.R.S. website that said when you were accessing their website, your computer and all its contents became property of the U.S. government? Two factual things that happened so far during the Obama Presidency.

(no subject)

Date: 19/7/10 19:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
No Vida, I don't mean like when anything. ::sssssssssssiiiiigggggghhhhhhh::

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