Get of my lawn!

[sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com]

This deserves attention...

In my mind this protest sets a dangerous precedent. In essence the SEIU has declared banker's homes, and families to be fair game. Do they not see how this could go wrong?

What would have happened if a neighbor, or worse a member of the banker's family, had decided to confront the protesters a la Gran Torino

In my previous post I bemoaned the "militarization" of civil authority. Now I'm going to go the other way and ask, where was the damn calvary?

There is a line in Slaughterhouse 5 that I have used in my posts about Iraq that goes "Those who have seen the elephant rarely go looking for it."

"Seeing the elephant" is a euphimism for combat, the idea being that any veteran "worth his salt" will be anti-war.

That's all well and good for physical warfare but what about class warfare?

Do we really want to find out?

Comments

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

In essence the SEIU has declared banker's homes, and families to be fair game.

Not that I necessarily disagree, but the protestors' homes have been 'fair game' for a good long while now.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

How so?

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

Traditionally when the bankers wish to bring the class war to their homes, they delegate the job to repo men.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

What class war, though? It's not like the banks walk up one day and say "this is mine now." It's done because those who entered into an agreement with the bank failed to follow it.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

People's individual agreements with the bank have been made against an ever-increasing background of economic duress - duress created in large part by the banks themselves.

The banks have also entered into agreements with the public (as with all corporate charters) and if they fail to follow that agreement, what recourse is there and who should exercise it?

We'd like to answer "whoever is the relevant authority for contract law" but the entire point of all this K Street protesting is that those authorities have been subverted.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

There is a woman, a legal expert, that offers advice on folks on how to thwart the foreclosure process, one of the more interesting aspects is by having a person from the bank show up in court, not a lawyer or other proxy. There are several other tactics she's suggested and they're quite effective.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

I'd like to hear more about this. Are there links?

[telemann.livejournal.com]

I looked around online for the article; she was featured on Huff Post a year ago. Florida law was unique, so that was one "out" to give homeowners more breathing time. I do recall this woman was based in Florida.

[badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com]

Hoo boy...

[blorky.livejournal.com]

"The banks have also entered into agreements with the public (as with all corporate charters) and if they fail to follow that agreement, what recourse is there and who should exercise it?" Can you elaborate what public agreements have been entered into?

Also, the circumstances of the individual agreements do NOT make the bank's foreclosures illegal or even inappropriate.

[readherring.livejournal.com]

Class war? No, I doubt the bankers really had any interest in a class war. More like they wanted to milk as much money as they could from any source possible.

[spaz-own-joo.livejournal.com]

Yeah, but in the aggregate, the rich were not exactly making all that money off of each other.

[readherring.livejournal.com]

The bankers were going after whomever was standing in front of them. Some of those people were rich.

Besides, there was no intent to go to war with another class. That part is ridiculous.