A modest proposal:

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

To the contemporary white supremacists who pro-claim themselves "pro-"legal" immigration".

I believe you are all aware, gentlemen, that the establishments of the two foreign encroachments by the barbarians termed Jamestown and Plymouth was quite illegal. The Americans never made such deals with those foreigners who were buying our land and taking our women. Yet nowadays the descendants of these illegal immigrants propose to remove the descendants of other illegal immigrants. I propose a fair and equitable trade: since the first group of illegal immigrants took land both from we Americans and the Spaniard interlopers, I suggest that in the interest of America for the Americans, we establish a united polity of Indigenous peoples, and sue to have these illegal immigrants and their descendants removed.

These men came in, took food from us and took our jobs. They did this in perfect ill-faith, and I believe, O spirits from Beyond the Grave that we can outdo Montezuma and the Diarrhea of Doom in revenging ourselves. Who's with me?

-Your obedient servant,

Tecumseh-

Comments

[malasadas.livejournal.com]

Needs more Caesar.

Duh.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Someone has been drinking on Saturdays.

[drcruel.livejournal.com]

You keep forgetting that America's proud tradition of accepting immigrants ended immediately after the arrival of my family.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

I'm sorry but I think that comparison fails. Taking land by force and setting up your own government is a tried-and-true tradition throughout history. The aboriginal Americans lost. That is unfortunate but to say they have claim over the nation now is to say that there are practically no legitimate nations anywhere in the world, depending upon how far back one wants to go.

Some immigrants are here illegally because we say they are, they would not be here illegally if we said they weren't. If some other nation wants to take our land by force, set up other governance and defend it, they are certainly welcome to try. One possesses exactly as much as one can defend, and that applies at all levels.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

True.

And so much with the OMG Teh Values that we stand for.

[stewstewstewdio.livejournal.com]

But we all enjoy the government we have right now so much.....(snicker). Let them get a bunch of guns and have a revolution just like the other malcontents and anarchists in our country wanted and tried to do. Oh, it's been tried and it failed miserably? Oh, well. Back to worshiping American Idol

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

Well, we do have values as a nation. We obviously value national defense.

But seriously, America IMO does have good secular values in general, some of which are implemented well, others, not so well.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

Except that by anyone's definition, the Indians of the east coast could have claimed that John Smith and Miles Standish were illegal immigrants. It's supposed to be satirical, not necessarily accurate. No more so than 1984 was of Britain in 1948.....

And you're talking to someone to whom nationalism is heresy, so saying "nations" have legitimacy is a losing argument.

[mrbogey.livejournal.com]

1. What statute did they violate when they immigrated here? It stands that if no law is violated. Then the act was legal.

2. The lax immigration controls by the aboriginal Americans led to their being outnumbered and overrun. So it follows we should regulate immigration if we wish to avoid their fate.

3. Everyone who disagrees with you politically is not a racist, white supremacist, secret communist, devil worshiper.

[pastorlenny.livejournal.com]

If some other nation wants to take our land by force, set up other governance and defend it, they are certainly welcome to try.

An excellent argument in favor of terrorism.

[underlankers.livejournal.com]

1) Horseshit.

2) Lax immigration? They were attempting to drive the Europeans into the sea in a matter of years. You want lax immigration, see: Foederati.

3) Just as everyone you disagree with politically is not a bloody red Bolshevik straight from sending their families to the Gulag.....

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

My (10 greats) grandparents came over in 1632 with Lord Baltimore. Unless you can beat that, I'll have to see your papers, please.

And be ready to pack your bags.

[pastorlenny.livejournal.com]

Only a member of the pernicious priestly class would suggest otherwise.

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Other than the value of protecting your national interests security, at whatever cost (which I respect and admire), frankly I don't see much more values to parade around with.

[404.livejournal.com]

Wait... what?

[puf-almighty.livejournal.com]

Can I still be a bloody red bolshevik?

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

How 'bout "Might makes Right"? after all we are the "biggest kid on the block" and as we become more and more secular that seems to be the best value we have left. We don't even have to parade it around, just stand up and say "double dog dare you".

[mahnmut.livejournal.com]

Well *you* are being frank about it. But you're not a politician.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

Terrorism is a tactic. Defenses against it are NOT setting aside our values in response, and going after them.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

Might is not necessarily right. It just is what it is.

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

How about our goals as a nation? Free speech, fairness, equal opportunity, right to assembly, consent of the governed, all that..

[eracerhead.livejournal.com]

Yes, they could have and probably did. Unfortunately they lost.

[pastorlenny.livejournal.com]

But you're saying terrorism is a legitimate political tactic.

Sheesh!!!

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

I really didn't think I needed to put a TIC tag on that.

[geezer-also.livejournal.com]

I was going for your Mao icon. What have I said to make you take me so seriously lately????? (you are my internet idol and my feelings are hurt)