Plagiarism
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talk_politics community standards but plagiarism shouldn't be acceptable.
I'm not going to call anyone out, not directly. But it was pointed out that an entry with over 100 comments is a lightly edited version of one by a profession pundit. Frankly I agree.
In a private conversation, another opinion stated that, It's more than "lightly edited," it's the same story rephrased completely differently using the same videos. and later explained, We consistently have long posts that ipaste liberally from news reports and such, so there'd be no issue even then. Perhaps this is true, but I don't like it.
Let me tell you an story. We used to have a great reporter here who used to climb up into the rafters of CityHall to eavesdrop in on the closed door sessions and reported what was going on. Later this reporter was elected Mayor and eventually Premier of the Province. People didn't always like what he did or what he had to say, but he was never caught in a lie. Ralph Klein was perhaps one of the only honest politicians. This not only made him a great Premier, loved by many, but also made him hated and the target of much criticism.
Well shortly before Ralph Klein retired as Premier an investigative journalist accused him of plagiarizing an essay on Chile for his degree in communications. It wasn't so much that he copy/pasted whole paragraphs, but that he failed to cite his internet sources. The university cleared him, saying the infraction was relatively minor, but still his critics, never willing to let a grudge go, never fail to bring this up whenever he makes the news.
This community is just for fun. I don't mean to place too much importance on it's importance, if you catch my drift. But really, how hard is it to cite a source? I mean if somebody is going to copy/paste/lightly edit somebody else's work, the only reason to do so it to disguise the origin and pass it off as your own. It's probably better find something so completely obscure that it can't be found in a simple google search of the text you used.
Better yet, why not just write your own piece? For myself it's often amazing to discover my own opinions that are only revealed to myself through my writing. I have learned that the process of writing is the process of forming my perspectives on subjects.
talk_politics community standards but plagiarism shouldn't be acceptable.I'm not going to call anyone out, not directly. But it was pointed out that an entry with over 100 comments is a lightly edited version of one by a profession pundit. Frankly I agree.
In a private conversation, another opinion stated that, It's more than "lightly edited," it's the same story rephrased completely differently using the same videos. and later explained, We consistently have long posts that ipaste liberally from news reports and such, so there'd be no issue even then. Perhaps this is true, but I don't like it.
Let me tell you an story. We used to have a great reporter here who used to climb up into the rafters of CityHall to eavesdrop in on the closed door sessions and reported what was going on. Later this reporter was elected Mayor and eventually Premier of the Province. People didn't always like what he did or what he had to say, but he was never caught in a lie. Ralph Klein was perhaps one of the only honest politicians. This not only made him a great Premier, loved by many, but also made him hated and the target of much criticism.
Well shortly before Ralph Klein retired as Premier an investigative journalist accused him of plagiarizing an essay on Chile for his degree in communications. It wasn't so much that he copy/pasted whole paragraphs, but that he failed to cite his internet sources. The university cleared him, saying the infraction was relatively minor, but still his critics, never willing to let a grudge go, never fail to bring this up whenever he makes the news.
This community is just for fun. I don't mean to place too much importance on it's importance, if you catch my drift. But really, how hard is it to cite a source? I mean if somebody is going to copy/paste/lightly edit somebody else's work, the only reason to do so it to disguise the origin and pass it off as your own. It's probably better find something so completely obscure that it can't be found in a simple google search of the text you used.
Better yet, why not just write your own piece? For myself it's often amazing to discover my own opinions that are only revealed to myself through my writing. I have learned that the process of writing is the process of forming my perspectives on subjects.
Re: the truth
Date: 12/4/10 14:34 (UTC)"On Thursday, April 8th, 2010, Congressman Alan Grayson, Democrat in Florida’s 8th district, interrupted a district meeting of the local Orange County Republican Executive Committee. The meeting was being held at Perkins, a family restaurant."
So if that is not plagiarism, it's extremely liberal copy-paste. And source is still nice, regardless.
Sorry, I was referring to Michelle Malkin as a profession journalist. Obviously you're not a journalist. Malkin at least left citation of her source with a link, and emboldened the lifted text.
BTW Teabaggers are sick.
Re: the truth
Date: 13/4/10 11:41 (UTC)BTW Teabaggers are sick.
Stick to commenting on issues instead of making personal attacks and perhaps you wouldn't sound entirely anal.
Once again, the moderator stated that my post was not plagiarized. I'll be expecting your apology soon.
Re: the truth
Date: 13/4/10 14:38 (UTC)Thank you for now citing the source on your post. It is always good etiquette to cite inspiration. It's pretty quick and simple to do. Otherwise it misleads readers to believe that the words, story and ideas are entirely your own.
It doesn't matter that this is not the Washington Post or that this is just LJ. For all we know, a WashPost reporter might cite
When you make apologies, I'll return it in kind. Your denial peppered with small admissions makes me think you don't really get it. This hasn't been a personal attack so much as addressing a larger which you just so happened to get caught at. Indeed you were caught, otherwise you never would have mentioned Tea Party dot com, if it were not for my persistence.
Re: the truth
Date: 13/4/10 14:42 (UTC)I'm not going to make any apologies to you because I did nothing wrong, as verified by the moderator. And caught at what? I wasn't "caught" doing anything. Clearly you're delusional.
Re: the truth
Date: 14/4/10 03:55 (UTC)I think you get it now, but are just being stubborn. I can live with that. Anyway I hope you understand I havn't been picking on you.
Welcome to
Re: the truth
Date: 13/4/10 18:10 (UTC)Fuck off.