[identity profile] steve-potocin.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
One of our education system's biggest problems is that there is not enough emphasis on the Maths and Sciences.....America is falling behind in the world because our students are not gaining the necessary knowledge in these fields....

Too much emphasis on useless book learnin and abstruse theories and nto enough on PRACTICAL skills....students shoudl learn about the greatness of the Capitalist system, why Marxism is evil and Socialism doesn't work, how to invest in the stock market, balance their finances...and so on....

Arts and Humanities programs should be defunded since many teachers in those fields only fill students minds with revisionist histories and make them hate their country.....in addition,the skills learned in those fields are not as important as those of MATH and SCIENCE,which are the wave of the future....

Most academics can't even fix a doorknob....and yet they want to advocate for socialism....most of the socialists who support Obama have never ran a business....never done payroll,none of it...

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Date: 9/4/10 09:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] headhouse.livejournal.com
Why is it one priority vs the other? Teach them both. A fundamental understanding of the sciences can easily intertwine with a deep appreciation of (or production of) creativity.

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Date: 9/4/10 15:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kenderkin.livejournal.com
This. :)

I don't understand why the two can't be taught equally well. Personally, I was a lover of Math in HS and then changed to learning about Literature and Philosophy in college. Now I'm back to Math & Science.

I also see students graduating from college not really knowing much about either subject (M.S. or L.A.) ~sigh~

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Date: 9/4/10 16:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mcpreacher.livejournal.com
creativity gives people dangerous ideas in steve's idealized fascist christian theocracy

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Date: 9/4/10 23:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Why would you think that understanding the sciences precludes creativity?

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Date: 10/4/10 08:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] headhouse.livejournal.com
It doesn't. That's sorta my point. Creativity can be, and often is, enhanced by a deeper knowledge of the world around us.

(Though this can backfire, as anyone who's shared a movie with a too-literal science geek can tell you.)

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Date: 10/4/10 17:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Even there, you're saying that someone is creative first and separately from the sciences.

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Date: 11/4/10 03:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] headhouse.livejournal.com
Not... quite what I'm saying, though I think I see that it looks like that's my implication. I'm not good at brevity sometimes, my fault.

I don't think we understand creativity any more than we understand talent. And that's a whole 'nother discussion, that probably won't happen in here. For the purposes of this topic, I'm saying that an understanding of science opens up a lot of avenues of growth for a student, and the opportunity to be creative and to learn how to express that creativity opens up other avenues, and combining those two (in my mind, not really separate) areas opens up even more avenues. So teach everything.

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Date: 12/4/10 07:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
Of course, teach everything. That's the point of a university education. I had to take about as many classes from outside my major as I did in my major, and most of those were social science classes.

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