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talkpoliticsAll that cutesy rhetoric that the revolution will be civilized and pro-workers and launched and controlled by edgy posters of Stalin memes has just encountered the American Freikorps seeking to seize the Capitol and prevent an orderly transition of power. In South American politics (defined as everywhere from the Mason--Dixon Line to Tierra del Fuego) they call that Tuesday/Martes/Terca.
Even with the reality of 1860, 1877, 2000, all of that, the USA believed itself above this kind of thing. Above the idea of armed fascists storming citadels of power, and where the idea of revolution was entertained the model was Lenin and not Cromwell or Ayatollah Khomeini. Turns out that in the real world it's fine to have this as a theory, but the reality is much colder and much more terrifying.
The only thing that surprises me is that it took until January for this Rubicon to be crossed and for Marius to demand the overthrow of the Republic at bayonet point.
I have no idea what happens here from this point, and all I can do is mourn for the last illusions that the ideals I grew up being told to believe were real ever truly were.
The United States I grew up believing in is dead beyond repair. What will replace it is in the very first opening stages of being found out.
Even with the reality of 1860, 1877, 2000, all of that, the USA believed itself above this kind of thing. Above the idea of armed fascists storming citadels of power, and where the idea of revolution was entertained the model was Lenin and not Cromwell or Ayatollah Khomeini. Turns out that in the real world it's fine to have this as a theory, but the reality is much colder and much more terrifying.
The only thing that surprises me is that it took until January for this Rubicon to be crossed and for Marius to demand the overthrow of the Republic at bayonet point.
I have no idea what happens here from this point, and all I can do is mourn for the last illusions that the ideals I grew up being told to believe were real ever truly were.
The United States I grew up believing in is dead beyond repair. What will replace it is in the very first opening stages of being found out.
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Date: 6/1/21 21:11 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 21:28 (UTC)Not happy to see THAT ghost stirring from its crypt. O.X
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Date: 6/1/21 21:13 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 21:18 (UTC)The USA, to quote an old statement from an Austro-Hungarian general has doomed itself to die, it could only choose the manner of its death. And it chose the most terrible.
Whether or not fragments of an electoral system prevail over this, US politics are going to be tilting to the South American/Weimar system of low-grade civil war overlaid on electoral processes. Whether or not it preserves those fragments or falls into full-fledged strongman systems.....time will tell. That it's gotten this far sure the fuck isn't an encouraging sign.
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Date: 6/1/21 21:13 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 21:21 (UTC)Politics mixed with low grade civil war isn't anyone's idea of a good time except fascists.
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Date: 8/1/21 12:05 (UTC)"Politics mixed with low grade civil war isn't anyone's idea of a good time except fascists."
It seems extremists on both sides are embracing some kind of revolutionary politics. I'd also say that both sides are being egged on by parts of "the establishment." I won't say both sides are equal in their nonsense, those on the right, particularly the president, are certainly excelling there.
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Date: 6/1/21 21:20 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 6/1/21 21:22 (UTC)I was wondering which of the various pogrom attempts that were earlier attempts to start it would get here.
Now it's here.
Whither to now?
I'm not sure but the good option is now yesterday's worst case.
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Date: 6/1/21 21:29 (UTC)^This.
*offers beverage of choice as we listen to the final death knell for our country*
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