They hate it cuz it's true
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talkpoliticsWhen speaking truth to power political cartoons are not always meant to be funny. Many times they have slapped us in the face and forced us to look at reality.
While this was originally published in a Canadian newspaper, the owner seems to have a fear of retaliation from Trump with his other business ventures. Thus, killing freedom of speech and press.
J.D. Irving, Limited is not only a privately owned conglomerate headquartered in New Brunswick, it's also an international behemoth with global reach. Trade has been an issue since Trump took office, trade that affects the Irvings directly, not to mention a host of other issues. And the POTUS himself is someone who doesn't usually shy away from punishing those who appear to oppose him.
You must have noticed that about Trump and revenge by now. He'll send you to the cornfield.
Of course, now the newspaper has painted itself into a corner, first having run the cartoon and then turning around and firing the guy for it. The problem is, the cartoon spoke truth. And Trump's ego couldn't handle it. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
While this was originally published in a Canadian newspaper, the owner seems to have a fear of retaliation from Trump with his other business ventures. Thus, killing freedom of speech and press.
J.D. Irving, Limited is not only a privately owned conglomerate headquartered in New Brunswick, it's also an international behemoth with global reach. Trade has been an issue since Trump took office, trade that affects the Irvings directly, not to mention a host of other issues. And the POTUS himself is someone who doesn't usually shy away from punishing those who appear to oppose him.
You must have noticed that about Trump and revenge by now. He'll send you to the cornfield.
Of course, now the newspaper has painted itself into a corner, first having run the cartoon and then turning around and firing the guy for it. The problem is, the cartoon spoke truth. And Trump's ego couldn't handle it. These guys should be ashamed of themselves.
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Date: 3/7/19 11:17 (UTC)We had deaths at the border then (and deportations, and 'cages', and family separation).
No clever comics though. No reporters fighting back tears, no outraged representatives.
Now - everyone wants to give a shit, but no one wants to give an explanation as to why they didn't before.
They should be ashamed of themselves? I couldn't agree more.
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Date: 3/7/19 11:32 (UTC)Numbers are often a tipping point to get some sort of recognition of a problem. Stats are our friend here.
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Date: 3/7/19 13:29 (UTC)The number of deaths is also down, there were 283 deaths crossing the border in 2018, 298 deaths in 2017, and 329 deaths in 2016. The numbers bounce around a bit, but only one year of Obama's presidency saw fewer deaths than either year of Trump's presidency, so it'd be accurate to say that these have broadly and dramatically decreased under Trump.
https://www.cbp.gov/sites/default/files/assets/documents/2019-Mar/bp-southwest-border-sector-deaths-fy1998-fy2018.pdf
There have been more interior deportations (people living inside the US who are deported) but for total numbers, President Obama still holds the deporter in chief title. I also don't remember seeing cartoons like this about Obama, even though the numbers of deaths were higher during his presidency. I guess the words used are more important than the number of people who actually die.
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Date: 3/7/19 14:18 (UTC)[Tips hat.]
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Date: 4/7/19 07:00 (UTC)https://www.snopes.com/ap/2019/07/03/ex-border-patrol-employees-discuss-vile-facebook-posts/
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/03/ice-us-immigration-messages-raids
It rather looks as if there is some sort of structural problem with some US agencies; and at a guess that extends back a good few years. We have the same problem with our Home Office in the UK, which has given us the "Windrush" scandal. Just over a year ago I posted this about a chap called Arthur Snell, who was a British High Commisioner to Trinidad and Tobago:
https://johnny9fingers.dreamwidth.org/286330.html
Wherein I try to point out the structural reasons for some of our problems.
It has to be said that the Home Office is a place where folk who like telling people to fuck off congregate; and I suppose if they can do that to a High Commissioner in the F.O. then the poor blighters without Mr Snell's connections or status will get told to fuck off quite a lot more. With manacles if the Home Office can get away with it. And detention centres. Maybe a little barbed wire spread around, just for the look of it. Armed machine gun posts? I've never been a good interior designer, and I suppose
concentration campsdetention centres partake of unusual accoutrements. What counts as proper fascist bling in these circumstances, I wonder: uniforms designed by Hugo Boss? motorcycles with sidecars and armed outriders? maybe an armoured car or two?......Let's call a fascist a fascist, shall we? We allow our fascists in the Home Office and Police Force and Prison Service because for some reason or other they have a zeal for telling folk to fuck off, or do this, or do that. And then, instead of controlling those nasty tendencies with sensible discipline and oversight in order to keep the Home Office honest, we have allowed them to run riot; aided and abetted by the usual suspects from the top down.
I wonder if the US problems are similar in nature.
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Date: 3/7/19 13:50 (UTC)Tu Quoquius, is that you?
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Date: 3/7/19 13:53 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 3/7/19 13:53 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 3/7/19 14:14 (UTC)The only way to actually reduce the number of deaths is to create some way for those who are currently illegally entering the US to do so legally and safely. So far, no presidential candidates, and there are plenty of them, are proposing anything like this. That said, Trump is president and this is his problem to solve and the cartoon certainly captured the uncaring way he's approached this issue.
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Date: 3/7/19 18:59 (UTC)Even at a government pace - we could have been close.
Some clarifications
Date: 3/7/19 11:55 (UTC)http://www.dailycartoonist.com/index.php/2019/06/29/brunswick-news-inc-cancels-michael-de-adder/
From the radio show _As It Happens_:
Date: 3/7/19 11:58 (UTC)