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talkpolitics...When Trump is confronted with a possible conspiracy that presumably worked in his favour, he instantaneously counters with a conspiracy theory of his own. It's like a knee-jerk reflex at this point.
Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of People’ Voted Illegally
And since we're in the era of post-truth (whatever that's supposed to mean anyway), a lie tolda hundred maybe two times, becomes truth. Right?
Well, here's the thing though. The electoral college, as weird and outdated as it may be, and as distorting the democratic process as it is, is what it is. And unless you'd like to fundamentally scrap it and replace it with something else, it is there to stay. It'll certainly create more future situations where one candidate loses the popular vote (by nearly a million) but ends up a "landslide" winner. Challenging that makes the loser look like, well, a sore loser.
Frankly, I don't get the whole effort. It shows that the losing candidate is either desperate, or (and) doesn't grasp the whole picture of why she actually lost. It's not about a few tens of thousands of votes. It goes much deeper than that. We've talked about this already here. Unless the political elites do some thorough soul-searching and come out with a thoughtful analysis of the causes for this outcome, and then a plan, they'll keep snatching defeats from the jaws of presumed victory in the future as well.
As for the recount, it may or may not produce something viable (most likely not, but apparently it's worth a shot, from Hillary's perspective - even though the recount has been conveniently triggered by a third party). The thing is, the Obama-Trump transition process has already begun. Face it already, folks. There's no way back from this. Trump is the president. Everyone has to deal with it.
Granted, there's a difference between contending an election after the fact based on how close it was, and declaring it fraudulent outright without any evidence. While Hillary's actions (or those of her surrogates, more precisely) may not be exactly of the highest moral integrity imaginable (and don't quite match her preliminary calls for her opponent to respect the election result no matter what), they're hardly comparable to the new lows that Trump's actions are plunging to. Come on dude, you're the president. You've got what you wanted. Time to grow up already. Are you going to rule a country like that?
Trump Claims, With No Evidence, That ‘Millions of People’ Voted Illegally
And since we're in the era of post-truth (whatever that's supposed to mean anyway), a lie told
Well, here's the thing though. The electoral college, as weird and outdated as it may be, and as distorting the democratic process as it is, is what it is. And unless you'd like to fundamentally scrap it and replace it with something else, it is there to stay. It'll certainly create more future situations where one candidate loses the popular vote (by nearly a million) but ends up a "landslide" winner. Challenging that makes the loser look like, well, a sore loser.
Frankly, I don't get the whole effort. It shows that the losing candidate is either desperate, or (and) doesn't grasp the whole picture of why she actually lost. It's not about a few tens of thousands of votes. It goes much deeper than that. We've talked about this already here. Unless the political elites do some thorough soul-searching and come out with a thoughtful analysis of the causes for this outcome, and then a plan, they'll keep snatching defeats from the jaws of presumed victory in the future as well.
As for the recount, it may or may not produce something viable (most likely not, but apparently it's worth a shot, from Hillary's perspective - even though the recount has been conveniently triggered by a third party). The thing is, the Obama-Trump transition process has already begun. Face it already, folks. There's no way back from this. Trump is the president. Everyone has to deal with it.
Granted, there's a difference between contending an election after the fact based on how close it was, and declaring it fraudulent outright without any evidence. While Hillary's actions (or those of her surrogates, more precisely) may not be exactly of the highest moral integrity imaginable (and don't quite match her preliminary calls for her opponent to respect the election result no matter what), they're hardly comparable to the new lows that Trump's actions are plunging to. Come on dude, you're the president. You've got what you wanted. Time to grow up already. Are you going to rule a country like that?
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