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talkpoliticsIt's almost time - not sure how these live thread things get started - or how to keep them going - or if I can keep my eyes and mind open for another hour and a half - but here we go...
If you're paying attention now - we're five minutes out - I recommend getting in on the 'hug with kiss on the cheek greeting' (8 to 1) probably won't happen but I see some value in it
If you're paying attention now - we're five minutes out - I recommend getting in on the 'hug with kiss on the cheek greeting' (8 to 1) probably won't happen but I see some value in it
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Date: 27/9/16 01:27 (UTC)He says, ""you've been fighting ISIS your entire adult life". LOL
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Date: 27/9/16 03:20 (UTC)He admitted he doesn't pay federal taxes. He admitted he stiffs people who do work for him. He announced he didn't think it would cause a war to blow a ship full of foriegn sailors out of the water and muttered "they were taunting us." He ranted about how many admirals and generals like him when he was asked about cybersecurity, and seemed to be touting his ten-year-old son as someone who might be put in charge of it. He snorted, sniffed, mugged, interrupted, and whined that she wasn't "nice."
Her resting face made me think of Obama saying "Please proceed" to Romney. I think a couple of times she had a very hard time not bursting into laughter.
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Date: 27/9/16 06:15 (UTC)Did Trump actually hypothesize that the DNC hacks were done by "some 400-pound guy on his bed"?
Did the accusations of tax evasion, of racism, of sexism, of endorsing war crimes, of condoning violence, ... did any of that actually stick? Did it even matter that most of what Trump offered in defense was tu quoque bluster?
Who can say.
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Date: 27/9/16 16:23 (UTC)Though I think that may be a risk further than we need assume Trump would take.
When will the Russian doping hackers reveal the Donald's TUEs?
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Date: 27/9/16 21:03 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 28/9/16 02:12 (UTC)Another theory - Perot did a little too good with his chance (I was ten, so I'm just basing that on what I heard years later).
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Date: 28/9/16 19:44 (UTC)Whether we agree or disagree with the Commission on Presidential Debates that "15% on five national polls" is a fair metric by which to exclude potential candidates is beside the point. I think we ought to be more permissive, and allow the "larger" third parties to have a say. But even those "various developed democracies around the world" who allow 3, 4, 5, or 8 people do not allow a hundred people to simply traipse all over the debate stage. Even they still limit the number of candidates allowed, and I'm sure someone in that crowd of excluded folks is calling that criteria arbitrary and wondering why they aren't allowed "anywhere near the debates."
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Date: 28/9/16 19:56 (UTC)(no subject)
Date: 28/9/16 20:11 (UTC)The reasons that only the two major parties ever manage to pass that threshold are far more of a chicken-egg conundrum than any simple "the elites don't want third parties" accusations can answer. We can lament that our system was designed with a "First Past the Post" method of granting electoral votes, an Electoral College system that counts progress in the race not as percentages of eligible voters but, again, as a "winner takes all" sort of thing in any specific region, and a legislature that follows a similar system (as opposed to the proportional representation found in the "various developed democracies around the world" that you mention above,) but that does nothing to answer the historical "why" of why it was set up that way, or the larger question of how to change it.
It would be easier if it were as insidious as some like to paint it, but it's less shadowy forces working to exclude the voice of "the people," and more a matter of "this is how we do it because this is how we've always done it" and the related "this is how we've always done it because this is how we do it."
Inertia is the hardest beast to kill, especially when a majority of people don't feel the need to get riled up about changing a system that still works well enough, for the most part.
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Date: 28/9/16 20:32 (UTC)