[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics

Another pseudo-scientific fad, or a revolutionary old-new re-discovered invention?

The bodies of a number of Rio Olympic athletes have been covered with red circles from cupping.

Presumably it helps increase blood flow and heal sore muscles. Remember those stripes of tape that athletes used to put on their muscles a few years ago? Seemed like another fad, which has come and gone. Anyone have some more insight into this new devilry here?

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Date: 12/8/16 11:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
I'm more concerned about those green pools around Rio.

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Date: 12/8/16 11:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
As expected, (Russian) conspiracy theories (http://foreignpolicy.com/2016/08/09/russian-state-tv-by-using-homeopathic-cupping-michael-phelps-basically-doped/) ensue

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Date: 12/8/16 13:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamville-bg.livejournal.com
I've always been amazed by the notion that if some practice is ancient, it must be very smart and useful. Blood-letting included. And all those New Age woos, too.

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Date: 15/8/16 04:41 (UTC)
garote: (bonk)
From: [personal profile] garote
Oh man... If bloodletting goes into style for athletes, I will probably laugh myself into the hospital...

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Date: 15/8/16 05:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamville-bg.livejournal.com
At the current rate of sliding further down into stupider and stupider fancy fads, I wouldn't be surprised.

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Date: 15/8/16 07:36 (UTC)
garote: (wasteland doctor)
From: [personal profile] garote
Next up: luge participants will surgically remove their arms (to be reattached later)

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Date: 15/8/16 07:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dreamville-bg.livejournal.com
In accordance with the neighboring topic about the robots.

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Date: 12/8/16 14:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peamasii.livejournal.com
My grandpa used to get that and the only things he competed in were rakia drinking, smoking and cursing.

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Date: 12/8/16 15:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
If he can perform like this 4 years from now, I'll start to believe. 8 years from now, I'll be sold on it.

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Date: 12/8/16 15:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
What if his performance is bolstered by other factors? You know that adage about correlation and causation...

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Date: 12/8/16 18:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
Well, if we rule out healthy diet and training hard - because everyone at his level does that, and also rule out PEDs - although I'm surprised it hasn't been suggested more - there isn't much left.

Whenever he hits that wall, he'll probably write a book and let us in on the secret.

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Date: 12/8/16 18:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Actually his advantages are inherently physiological (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/olympics/swimming/10768083/Michael-Phelps-The-man-who-was-built-to-be-a-swimmer.html).

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Date: 12/8/16 15:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
All the anti-woo groups I'm in were talking about it over the last few weeks. There are some potentially serious side effects depending on how it's done (some folks heat the cups, and there have been cases where people have ended up with third-degree burns or other severe tissue damage because basically you are destroying blood vessels - giving yourself a giant hickey.) And, of course, there's no actual benefit to any of it. It's all complete nonsense based on acupuncture and the five elements ideas of ancient people who didn't know how bodies work. (kind of like how homeopathy is based on the disproven models of vitalism and bodily humours.)

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Date: 12/8/16 15:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com
And also the discredited theory about the memory of water. And the "like cures like". And also this:

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Date: 12/8/16 21:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
I could see it having an 'accidental' effect.

(i.e. a real physiological effect, just not at all related to the stated theory of the practice)

I suspect something like the pain gating effect might be going on that's reducing the subjective experience of pain in the muscles in question.

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Date: 15/8/16 04:43 (UTC)
garote: (ultima 6 rave)
From: [personal profile] garote
Next year they will be in the shape of corporate logos.

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