[identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Terrorists usually have two major goals: kill as many people as possible, and cause as much damage to society as they can. They specifically target vulnerable places that symbolise open and free societies, aiming to cause doubt in those tenets of said society. Which is why the attacks in Paris and Brussels, and now Orlando, is as dangerous for society as it is monstrous in its atrocity.

The Orlando attack has struck a society that was already at a crossroads, with a battle coming up between two paradigms, not just presidential candidates. What is at stake here is the direction that the American society would go next - and with it, the most powerful and influential country in the world. This choice will affect world politics, so it is not just a decision of the American people about their own future. So you can understand why the rest of the world is so fixated on it.

Granted, the president's authority is not limitless in America. There are checks and balances. Obama himself found that out on a few occasions: the health reform, his intentions to shut down Guantanamo... In a two-party system that is now almost devoid of compromise and is marred by confrontation even on the most trivial of issues, the president is highly dependent on support from the Supreme Court. Which is why this election campaign is so important and so fiercely contested. It is just that the influence that those judges are wielding right now is immense. They are the people who ultimately make the really important decisions.

And because the supreme judges are for life, their terms do not end when a president ends their turn. As of now, one of those seats is vacant, and another two could be vacated soon. Which means that the next president would likely be nominating at least two new supreme judges.

The horrible terror attack in Orlando comes right in the middle of the presidential election (of whose length most people around the world are dismayed). And predictably, right after the attack, Trump's supporters showed that they would not hesitate to use the incident for their purposes: immediately after the first indications of Muslim background of the attacker, the social networks were flooded with praise for Trump's anti-Muslim stance. Those people will certainly be using Hillary Clinton's solidarity with the Muslim community as a weapon against her. They will be playing with people's fears with the sole purpose of earning some more political points for their candidate. And it would not be surprising if they succeed in pushing him to the fore, because right now, a lot of Americans seem particularly susceptible to that sort of populism. They are prone to believe all sorts of insane promises, without realising what it truly means to live in a society that has imposed self-isolation and total control upon itself.

When he is promising to make America great again, Trump mostly means he is supposed to rule a country that would not be allowing Muslims on its territory (whether the Gulf billionaires or the London mayor would make a disingenuous exception, as Trump has indicated, is still an open question). What he envisions is a country that would not be dependent on the decisions of judges with Mexican ancestry because they are not American enough and Trump-friendly enough; a country where women will have to endure misogynist verbal harassment as a norm, and possibly revert to a second-citizen status as a by-product.

So, will America really fall into the terrorist trap? A skillful demagogue would know very well how to use the bloodbath in Florida to the best of their purposes. Terrorist attacks are indeed a huge challenge to any society, because they demand of us to answer the complicated question how precious freedom really is, and what lengths are we prepared to go to, and what risks are we ready to take in order to preserve it. But because such attacks inevitably generate a reaction of hate and desire for vengeance, the politicians and society as a whole tend to find difficulty in keeping their cool in such situations. After the Paris attacks, the French president Hollande coped relatively well with that task. In the US however, there is a political battle of unprecedented toxicity and divisiveness. So I fear for the American society a great deal.

This is why the main question right now is, will America do exactly what the terrorists are aiming for, and seek refuge from its own fears by reverting into an un-free, closed society - which is exactly the kind of society that the Jihadist fundamentalists want? Or will it somehow be able to preserve the "American dream", which is only possible in a truly open society? Unfortunately, there is great danger that blind anger could prevail.

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Date: 14/6/16 09:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
Well, if Trumps way of thinking will lead to more of what terrorists want, and Hillarys way of thinking got them to this point in the first place - then we aren't at a crossroads, we're on a one-way street.

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Date: 14/6/16 10:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Is there a third way that would at least turn this one way street into an intersection?
Edited Date: 14/6/16 10:21 (UTC)

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Date: 14/6/16 16:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
With all their flaws, I still don't think Trump or Hillary could be shitty enough where a significant number of people from both sides would go into the voting booths and pick a 3rd party. It'd be a trust fall, and the two sides just don't trust each other enough.

Maybe if the Presidential election were spread out like the primaries, or the primaries were condensed to one day like the Presidential election - I could see that eventually giving us better options (even though this time, I'm pretty sure it still would have given us the same two)



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Date: 14/6/16 18:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Spreading the general election over moths? Oh please God no...

Wait... isn't the campaign already protracted enough?

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Date: 14/6/16 20:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
It's already spread out, I just mean spread the voting out. It could still end early November, but voting could start....ten weeks out? Five states every Tuesday? Save the ones that matter (Florida, Ohio, North Carolina, etc) for the last week or two?

It's the only way another option could ever get momentum.

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Date: 14/6/16 20:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Sounds frightening, frankly. I'm not sure the voters would want to go through all this twice.

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Date: 14/6/16 10:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
What Orlando would do is nudge America yet one inch further into the same direction that it's been going for decades: deeper into the divided society that it has become, ruled by a corporate-dominated police state that has reached a point where it can't be overhauled without major upheaval.

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Date: 14/6/16 13:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
How will it change America? It won't make it any better, if that's what you're asking.

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Date: 21/6/16 21:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Why do I need to elaborate? It's presumptuous to assume that a mass shooting will "change America" in any context.

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Date: 17/6/16 20:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I can't see the USA amending its own constitution to officially enshrine 'anti-terrorist' laws into its law of the land the way France did. Trump is going full Poland in gagging any media he doesn't like though, so if he wins we forfeit any and all ability to note that EU tolerance of such shenanigans is any different to this side of the Atlantic.

I expect a lot of crocodile tears, sound and fury, and then nothing at all. Sandy Hook didn't change anything and most of the time Islamists kill everyone equally, it's the Christian fundies who directly target LGBTQI people.

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