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Florida Democrat Senator Alan Grayson drills Ben Bernanke, the Chairman of the Board of Governors of the United States Federal Reserve over the handing out of half a trillion dollars to foreign banking institutions. Grayson's main argument is over the constitutionality of the power the federal reserve has to hand these monies over without any oversight by the United States Congress. Bernanke defends the federal reserves right to hand out these funds based on the congressional approval of the Federal Reserve act.

In my opinion, the Federal Reserve now believes it is also a government body that has the power to loosen the purse strings and pass billions of dollars out as it seems fit. Feel free to argue the original intent of the Federal Reserve Act, or even against the existence of a national banking body.

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Date: 29/8/09 08:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Thanks for re-posting this with an added comment, and once again sorry for having deleted the first version.

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Date: 30/8/09 21:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lordtwinkie.livejournal.com
yea seriously wtf is up with this love fest.

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Date: 31/8/09 09:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Well, it was [livejournal.com profile] kinvore who recently declared [livejournal.com profile] abomvubuso to be the Paula Abdul of LJ mods - he loves everyone and he cannot comprehend how come it's not possible that everyone else loves everyone.

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Date: 29/8/09 11:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
It... currently does?

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Date: 29/8/09 13:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The Fed's done more good than it has harm. And the Andrew Jackson model of federal banking might have worked in the 19th Century but this is the 21st.

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Date: 29/8/09 16:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
The fed has done significant harm as opposed to good? (http://www.wnd.com/index.php?pageId=59405) (This is the correct link, srry)

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Date: 29/8/09 21:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
World Net Daily?

I would trust that as much as I'd trust a history of Judaism written by Adolf Hitler.

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Date: 30/8/09 01:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
The same story appears elsewhere. You can probably find it on CNN or whichever news source you prefer. Many well known and respected professionals credit the Fed with having caused these latest economic troubles as well. Example, Steve Forbes:

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Date: 29/8/09 14:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
I'm just boggled by the vision of a representative from Useless and Oh Kaller, which are probably Central Florida's deepest bastion of narrowminded redneck idiocy, not just being a Democrat but arguing from such clarity and reason. Oh no, wait, I feel something... strange... it's... OMG it's respect for a politician in my home state. ::dies::

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Date: 29/8/09 14:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
He's doing exactly what he said he would do in his campaign, so I applaud him for that. Also, I doubt there were many votes for him coming from Eustis and Ocala. Orlando got him elected. You're welcome. :)

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Date: 29/8/09 14:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] xforge.livejournal.com
Maybe the artsy-fartsy bunch in Mount Dora voted for him too = )

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Date: 29/8/09 14:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
I'm curious as to whether this $500 bazillion investment actually paid off.

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Date: 31/8/09 15:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
the TARP bailout?

The NYT says that the Federal Government has made a profit of $4billion.

http://www.nytimes.com/2009/08/31/business/economy/31taxpayer.html?th&emc=th

These early returns are by no means a full accounting of the huge financial rescue undertaken by the federal government last year to stabilize teetering banks and other companies.

The government still faces potentially huge long-term losses from its bailouts of the insurance giant American International Group, the mortgage finance companies Fannie Mae and Freddie Mac, and the automakers General Motors and Chrysler. The Treasury Department could also take a hit from its guarantees on billions of dollars of toxic mortgages.

But the mere hint of bailout profits for the nearly year-old Troubled Asset Relief Program has been received as a welcome surprise.

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Date: 31/8/09 18:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] soliloquy76.livejournal.com
Yeah, I saw that today. Thanks for the reply, though.

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Date: 29/8/09 16:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
For a conspiracy theory laden "documentary" The Money Masters (http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-515319560256183936) presents an interesting, if not partly fictional account of the Federal Reserve's origins.

The concept of a central banking system composed of private sector banks which are primarily concerned with profits, simultaneously attempting to enforce government policy, which are concerned with what is best for its citizens, represents a conflict of interests in my opinion that should not exist in a legitimate government. In that vein, I would suggest that the Fed is corrupt and should be disbanded in favor of a body with more intrinsic neutrality.

According to the video...

Date: 29/8/09 23:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
... the Fed didn't actually dole out the money, but lent it at interest.

This is the kind of thing that it does in order to keep the dollar afloat as a viable currency on the global money market. Many American businesses that operate overseas depend on such activity on the part of the Fed.

Re: According to the video...

Date: 30/8/09 20:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
Congress implicitly approved it, they have the power to tell the fed to not do things, but didn't. They're still the ones with the power over the purse strings.

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