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Iz their a English majur - or more importantly - a psykiatrist in the house?

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 07:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
I see you have trouble with English language skills. I expected nothing else. So if they refuse to pay for a particular type of treatment the person will be disallowed from paying for it themselves? or persuing any private insurance?

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 07:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com
yes due to high taxes required to support socialized healthcare.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 07:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Again with the English fail. Amusing because one of the boasts you guys like to come out with (which is often wrong) is how people in socialised systems come to America to pay for treatment out of their own pocket.

So basically you cannot comprehend what directly means, I will give you disallow as it could be taken another way. Put it this way, aside from the fact it will be cheaper and available to all Americans how is this any different to the current system of private health insurance in the US. Which is the most inefficient in the Western World.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 08:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hunterkirk.livejournal.com
http://freep.com/article/20090820/BUSINESS06/908200420/1319/

"Agreements between Detroit hospitals and the Ontario Ministry of Health and Long-Term Care for heart, imaging tests, bariatric and other services provide access to some services not immediately available in the province, said ministry spokesman David Jensen."


Right they are not coming to the USA for care.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 08:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Thank you. So now you have proven to me that people in Socialised health care systems can afford private care would you like to reconsider your earlier words? or perhaps address any of my other points?

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 29/8/09 14:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
So you don't actually have any answers then?

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 30/8/09 23:36 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
The rich can always afford to go somewhere else, the rest of us, not so much.
All this reform is suppose to be about the rest of us. From what I've seen so far the vast majority of us in the middle are going to end up worse than we are now.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 31/8/09 00:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
How so? going by an objective analysis of most countries with socialised health care you will be far better off.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 31/8/09 00:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Hmm, perhaps, saying most was hyperbole. However, from what I have (in health care)compared to what my middle class Canadian friends have, I won't be. Granted I pay a lot more. I have been meaning to do a cost analysis based on taxes, but I'm exceptionally lazy and non-motivated. Besides I guess I'm selfish, and I like my health care, and like approx 87% of Americans I'm satisfied with it, not necessarily completely happy mind you, but satisfied ;)

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 31/8/09 00:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Basically you guys pay about double per capita for a system that doesn't even cover 100% of the population. Or in short you have the most inefficient system in the western world.

Oh and most common cause of bankruptcy, medical bills.

Yeah I can see why you all like your current system.

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 31/8/09 00:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Ah, a probable Canuck.....

Wrong I personally pay way more, but not so much in taxes (you have no idea what my miniscule tax rate) Like I said I'm selfish and my HMO coverage is unbelievably good, but then the cost is unbelievably high.......

Sorry, going to an ice cream sociable now, and will be home late :D

Re: HONESTY????

Date: 31/8/09 02:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] usekh.livejournal.com
Interesting you presume Canada, considering that I could be from pretty much any major industrial nation, except the US.

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