This person needs help.

[devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com]

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Iz their a English majur - or more importantly - a psykiatrist in the house?

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[telemann.livejournal.com]

He voted half the time with President Bush while he was a Senator, how's that for starters?

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

Depends. Bush was a moderate and if the only times he voted with Bush was the times Bushes reachout to the left then it wouldn't count would it. The second consideration is political manuevers. In other words there may be reasons why he voted those ways that would forward his leftist goals.

You need now to sight the best example of one of his votes and then prove why this was neither a political manuever or not a bill that helped his leftist goals.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

As much as conservative Republican's like to make Bush out as some liberal in sheeps' wool, Vote view shows Bush to be pretty far right:

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

Meaningless.

I would need to see the data that they used and know the bias of the person creating the charge. So a link to the source of this would be required.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

and know the bias of the person creating the charge.

I bet.

viewed as one of the best political science resources on the Internet. , routinely praised by most political scientists, has tallied every single vote in Congress since the first one. Highly statistical based. (http://voteview.org/)

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

I could not detect a clear bias in the producer of the graph.

Now we look at the data and there seems to be a flaw. One it when it comes to comparing a President who was a Govenor you lack the number of in puts that the common Congressman would have. Thus it become more weighted and as such less accurate. In fact he admits this in the data section.

Second problem is how does he define "liberal" and "Conservative". Some use anything Democrat is Liberal and anything Republican is conservative. That simply isn't the case. I looked at the web site and it is poorly arrange thus getting this definition is more difficult then it was worth to me. If you wish to find the definition used then I would be happy to consider it.

Now as for the results, even in this study Obama is clearly left of the common Democrat and a far left liberal. Exactly what his liberalism isn't spelled out in the chart. Again we are left with the needed definitions of what is a liberal and what data is considered liberal and what data is considered conservative.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Now we look at the data and there seems to be a flaw. One it when it comes to comparing a President who was a Govenor you lack the number of in puts that the common Congressman would have.

The president makes routine statements about all votes in Congress, this site uses that information for its statistics.

If you wish to find the definition used then I would be happy to consider it.

The use the term relative to the votes of each Congress and then compare that to the other Congresses.

Now as for the results, even in this study Obama is clearly left of the common Democrat and a far left liberal.



Again, not true. He maybe slightly left of center, but far out left? Bullshit.

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

"The use the term relative to the votes of each Congress and then compare that to the other Congresses."

That is a non answer. It also is very inaccurate a method as it makes a lot of assumptions that are not well founded.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

That is a non answer. It also is very inaccurate a method as it makes a lot of assumptions that are not well founded.

As opposed to your assumptions?

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

I know my assumptions. The assumptions in the poll are not listen and this makes for a deep flaw in the poll. A good poll maker would list there definitions and assumptions prior to showing the results. Assumptions in politics are common and needed as we are not dealing with a hard science. His lack of taking these steps brings in the question the results.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

These aren't polls for starters.

[hunterkirk.livejournal.com]

Fine charts but the remark is still accurate.

[telemann.livejournal.com]

Not really, they're pretty much reporting data from the votes.