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"Satirists will always fly higher than guns".






"Cabu? At least once you finished ahead of deadline".
"Farewell Cabu, Wolinski, Tignous, Charb... Never stop drawing".


"Drawing kills".


"Love is stronger than hatred".


"This is not a religion".








"Oh, not these guys"...




"The world has become so serious that humor is a risk job".


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Date: 9/1/15 08:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Well, apparently not all of us are (https://www.opendemocracy.net/can-europe-make-it/cas-mudde/no-we-are-not-all-charlie-and-that’s-problem).

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Date: 9/1/15 11:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
And are they Hara Kiri? (good article)
Edited Date: 9/1/15 11:02 (UTC)

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Date: 10/1/15 13:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
To be fair, If they had tried to publish their satirical newspaper on any American university campus over the last two decades it wouldn’t have lasted 30 seconds... (http://www.nytimes.com/2015/01/09/opinion/david-brooks-i-am-not-charlie-hebdo.html?smid=pl-share)

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Date: 9/1/15 09:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Thank you for these.

I think I laughed at "he drew first" way more than was appropriate.

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Date: 9/1/15 09:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
C'mon, don't tell me you've been having auto-censorship inclinations. Freedom of Laughter for all!

♫ ♫ Snoopy laughs ♫ ♫

Date: 9/1/15 15:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
http://youtu.be/JQeKdvXliIU?t=2m4s

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Date: 9/1/15 15:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
I love the international scope of all those cartoons in your comment. Thank you, kind sir!

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Date: 9/1/15 11:59 (UTC)

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Date: 9/1/15 13:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
And so it goes on (http://www.foxnews.com/world/2015/01/09/paris-terror-attack-suspects-reportedly-steal-car-take-hostage-in-northeast/)...
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
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Date: 9/1/15 21:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
If the cartoon that led to violence had depicted Jews the way it did Arabs, odds are that these anarchists' 'defenders' jumping on this as an excuse to flex their own bigotry would instead be responding approvingly to any violence in retaliation to the cartoon. Satirizing Muslims and Muhammad is old hat and frankly put not innovative these days, and is pretty much to satire what The Interview is to films: cheap drama bait that the Islamists probably intended to see spike a growth in people like the Le Pen movement and its adherents. Essentially they're banking that the country of Robespierre and Marshal Petain will indulge its nasty side just like the USA did in response to a few planes in a building. Whether or not France will be the moral country or the originator of politicized bloodshed remains to be seen.

Hopefully the French, who were willing to lecture the USA rightly on overly brutal responses to brutality will adhere to their own advice when the shoe's on the other foot.

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Date: 10/1/15 10:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
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Charlie Hebdo hasn't exactly shied away from making fun of Christians, Jews, Gays, Feminists, Nazis etc...

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...and no one called for anyone to be beheaded (though the arch-diocese of France did sue them for defamation) The fact that french neo-nazis posed less of a violent threat than french Muslims kind of invalidates your theory here.

ETA: Charlie Hebdo cover images.
ETAA: Fixed bad Html + 1 more cover
Edited Date: 10/1/15 11:21 (UTC)

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Date: 10/1/15 15:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Or alternately French Neo-Nazis don't care about Christianity and Christian opinion any more than the Mk. I Nazis did and thus they'd care less about that than depicting one of their leaders in interracial sex, for example. My statement relied on some hardline Israeli Meir Kahane type doing the attack more than native French Jews anyway, in keeping with the attack here.

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Date: 10/1/15 16:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Only the first couple of covers pertain to Christians, you want Charlie Hebdo covers portraying interacial / gay sex? Google's image search will oblige.

Your argument relies on the assumption of facts not in evidence.

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Date: 12/1/15 19:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Yeah, I have to also question his claims.

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Date: 10/1/15 02:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ha, that's really cool! How do you set that up? I should do that with my Ubuntu terminal too.

New Yorker magazine is running this iconic cover for its January 19th issue

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Date: 10/1/15 10:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
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ETA: fixed link
Edited Date: 10/1/15 11:12 (UTC)

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Date: 10/1/15 18:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
The magazine is going on, which is good news. They're going with a million copy press run for the next issue, to be published this Wednesday. The French government has given the magazine around £800,000 (this was mentioned in a British media article, so they printed the currency in £). Charlie Hebdo staff will be using the offices of French newspaper Liberation - while fellow newspaper Le Monde has reportedly vowed to donate computers to the displaced journalists. Amid speculation that the cover image could be more provocative than ever, former editor Philippe Val declared: 'We will never stop laughing. We must let people laugh. We must let them ridicule the bastards.' Source. (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2903332/Emotional-Charlie-Hebdo-staff-gather-meeting-time-gunmen-slaughtered-ten-colleagues-vow-not-terrorists.html#ixzz3ORdpBAid) One cartoonist on staff only survived, because he overslept by a half hour, and was late to the scheduled meeting.

I was curious if anyone in NYC carried this magazine, but no luck so far. But Amazon has a subscription service. Pricey.
(http://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00007LMFU/ref=as_li_tl?ie=UTF8&camp=1789&creative=390957&creativeASIN=B00007LMFU&linkCode=as2&tag=tuckerheavy-20&linkId=QZSRH2DOKY6ZSJRJ) But you can get back issues and single issues from 3rd party retailers via Amazon. That's a bit cheaper.

NBC Nightly News had a moving report on International memorials for the slain cartoonists. "Cartoonists Across the World React to Terror Attack with the Pen" but the video is not currently available on their website. You'd have to go to the full broadcast for January 8th, I think. They interviewed Pulitzer prize winner Tom Toles (Washington Post) while he was drawing this piece that was to run:

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The video clip is well worth watching (http://www.nbcnews.com/watch/nightly-news-netcast/nightly-news-with-brian-williams-full-broadcast-january-8-381870659663), pretty moving stuff. The section on cartoonists reactions is at the 18:00 minute marker.




Edited Date: 10/1/15 19:45 (UTC)

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