ext_345502 ([identity profile] airiefairie.livejournal.com) wrote in [community profile] talkpolitics2015-01-08 03:59 pm
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The Islamic republic of... France?

Could a piece of fiction cause a hatred so strong that would lead to mass killings? The bloody attack in Paris leaving scores of dead innocents will probably add even more dramatism to the vision of one Michel Houellebecq of France as a possible future Islamic republic...


The attack on the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo that became infamous for its critical positions against Islam and the Muhammad cartoons from previous years (and whose latest cover was directly inspired by Houellebecq's writings), could also have a connection to Houellebecq's new book, where he describes a fictitious scenario of the Islamisation of France.

France, the year 2022. The crescent shines over Paris, and the green flag of Islam floats atop the Elysee Palace. France has just elected its first Muslim president, Mohammed ben Abbes. The new head of state decides to abolish the secular republic, and build an Islamic theocratic state, where polygamy is legalised, and men have all the power. Women are required to wear burqas and have no right to work or study, the Sorbonne is turned into an Islamic university, all professors there being obliged to accept Islam.

Just a fictional story or a peek into the future? The author seems to genuinely believe that such a far-fetched scenario is actually possible, even if it does not happen so soon as his book claims.

Some years ago, the world-famous writer got the high French literary award Goncourt, and the critics have never stopped calling him a highly controversial, even scandalous author ever since. His brand new book Submission only comes to confirm that. It bears an explosive message, which sounds as if it is taken directly from the rhetoric of the far-right Front National, which is now being echoed in Germany as well: "the West is threatened with Islamisation".

The French League against Racism and Anti-Semitism has warned that Houellebecq is playing with people's collective fears. They have called his books "the greatest present that Marine Le Pen could have received". What they mean is the political intrigue in the book: in order to stop FN and Le Pen from taking over the country, the mainstream leftist and centre-right parties collude to deny her the presidency in favour of the Muslim candidate, thus taking the responsibility for what happens afterwards. His critics believe that Houellebecq is settling scores with real French politicians and an entire political caste which in his view has failed to unite society.

French president Francois Hollande has distanced himself from Houellebecq. He believes his books are not some sort of literature bravery, but merely a regurgitation of old populist cliches. Because there have always been people who have praised the decadent and retrograde, and have dwelt in a permanent sense of hopeless pessimism. Houellebecq himself denies the accusation that he is aiming to fuel people's prejudices. The bad boy of French literature does not seem to believe that he merely plays the role of a professional provocateur. He is convinced that Marine Le Pen would not draw any benefits from his books, since she has been doing quite well in recent times, anyway.

Houellebecq's book, as well as in previous cases, has caused very polarised reactions. Some of the critics call it daring, funny, even a sarcastic satire of today's French society. Others call it an Islamophobic lampoon, solely designed to advocate the ideas of the far-right. The philosopher Malek Chebel says that Houellebecq uses his talent to fuel the fears of Islam, and exactly because he is a great writer, he should have more responsibility in that respect.

His books will probably affect the way the French people perceive the Islamic community in their country, along with yesterday's dreadful attack of course. There is a sense among the Muslim community that they are being branded and stigmatised, and used as a scapegoat for all of France's troubles. The economic crisis could naturally cause a crisis of values, even a moral crisis. And some demagogues in politics would be sure to enjoy taking benefit of this in order to sow fear and have political gains as a result. Unfortunately, Houellebecq's books tend to ultimately drive the point in the same direction.

Whether Submission is a painful call against Islam, or merely a social and political snapshot of the French society, Houellebecq himself will not tell. The protagonist in his latest book, a man called Francois, also finds it hard to define himself. He acknowledges that Islam has had both an attractive and repulsive effect on him, which can be quite confusing for the reader as well. This relativism affects both the character and the author, who has said that he neither supports nor rejects his protagonist, but would rather allow the reader to decide for themselves. Let us hope that he will not be massacred by some extremist lunatic in response to his writings, because these are points to be made and openly discussed, as opposed to being tackled with machine-guns and/or self-censorship.

Update: The much dreaded exchange of violence may have already begun.

[identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 02:10 pm (UTC)(link)
Seems like the French Police may have at least one of the wrong suspects for the Charlie Hebdo murders...

http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/charlie-hebdo-shooting-suspect-twitter-mourad-hamyd (http://www.theguardian.com/world/2015/jan/08/charlie-hebdo-shooting-suspect-twitter-mourad-hamyd)

Maybe they have avoided the French version of the Jean Charles de Menezes fiasco, though.

[identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 02:37 pm (UTC)(link)
The terrorists who killed cartoonists should be found and prosecuted. Murder is not the way to right wrongs. Suing in court for slander, is. And Muslims may have a point about been wronged in this case, because even a cursory research shows what sort of systematic deliberate provocations that yellow magazine had been resorting to for quite a while, explicitly targeting religious faith. One could see things like this (NSFW (http://valsodar.blog.bg/photos/52113/original/1513172_10205581770454006_8733637638347901684_n.jpg)), or that photo where the "innocent" cartoonist was posing while licking the image of Muhammad.

That's not an expression of the freedom of speech. That's a deliberate provocation in very poor taste, aiming at gaining more publicity and doing more sales for the magazine. It's got nothing remotely resembling a social message in it. It's trolling. And as such, it should've been "openly addressed" - in court. Not on the battlefield that the magazine office was turned into.

The offended Muslims can't win this way. And the "indigenous Europeans" can't "win their land back from the barbarians" by throwing grenades on mosques. All they'll both get is more hatred and blood.

[identity profile] peamasii.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 03:48 pm (UTC)(link)
Houllebecq for all his islamophobia is in general quite an exceptional writer, having read several of his early books I am curious enough to read his latest "propaganda". It's possible though that he's gone somewhat senile as he's always been a bit on the edge and quite an outsider from mainstream society.

Interestingly enough I visited the Charlie Hebdo offices almost by accident, back in 2010, while on vacation in Paris with my family. Was always a big fan of French comics like Fluide Glaciale (you can find lots of backissues on issuu if you are a fan, BTW), and having only recently heard of Charlie, I found their location on the net and just walked in the door, thinking I would find some old dudes with stacks of old comics lying around. At the time there had been no threats yet (those started in 2011) and they were just like, can we help you? I explained in my bad French that I thought it was a store of their old issues, excused myself and left. A year later they got firebombed and yesterday was the last attack... an unfair revenge committed by cowards who can't take a joke.

The fact is that in most Western countries you couldn't even publish stuff like that, making fun of all kinds of stuff that people hold sacred. Religion, sex, the law, politics, everything was a matter of ridicule and laughter in these publications I've seen. The caricatures they make of Jesus among others are so absurdly funny that in some countries they would get probably get prison sentences right away. That's one thing I noticed about French (and Italians to some extent), they basically will insult anyone and everyone whenever they feel like it.

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 05:16 pm (UTC)(link)
Image

Je suis charlie. (http://www.vox.com/2015/1/7/7507883/charlie-hebdo-explained-covers)

[identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 06:39 pm (UTC)(link)
I've said it before, and I'll say it again. Ideology (religion, nationalism, and all sorts of -isms) is the bane of human civilization, and the root of all evil in this world. Has always been, and will continue to be so for a long time to come.

People have the right to be assholes to other people, and other people have the right to recognize them for the assholes that they are - even if being an asshole helps bring a point through at times. But ending human lives in a gruesome and violent manner over ideology? Now that's beyond despicable. It's not just inhuman, it's NON-human. These people are not humans. They're animals.

Which still doesn't make the millions of ordinary peeps who happen to share their particular brand of mass delusion that they call religion, monsters. The temptation to label them so is particularly big in moments like these, I know. But how we humans conduct ourselves in such situations, is exactly what defines who and what we are.

[identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 08:46 pm (UTC)(link)
What I found paradoxically ironic in this whole debacle is that a left-wing magazine has essentially helped make the point of the likes of Wilders, Le Pen and the other far-right extremists who've been warning about the Islamic Menace for quite a while. These terrorists essentially provided them with the rationale they needed to push their agenda even more vigorously through.
Edited 2015-01-08 20:52 (UTC)

[identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com 2015-01-08 09:11 pm (UTC)(link)
This is only one of many events within a long chain, the previous ones being those mass riots in the Paris suburbs some time ago. The issue will not only not be going away, no matter how hard some are hoping, but it'll be coming back again and again, ever harder.

It shows that the presumably advanced societies have missed something very significant in the whole picture.
Edited 2015-01-08 21:12 (UTC)

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[identity profile] planet-x-zero.livejournal.com 2015-01-09 06:49 pm (UTC)(link)
"Consider yourself warned"

Consider myself censored. Let the adults debate. Why you feel like you need to go around policing the debate is incredibly disturbing in light of what's going on.

[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com 2015-01-09 07:17 pm (UTC)(link)
Just saw this...

Hacktivist’ group Anonymous says it will avenge Charlie Hebdo attacks by shutting down jihadist websites. (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/europe/france/11335676/Hacktivists-Anonymous-says-it-will-avenge-Charlie-Hebdo-attacks-by-shutting-down-jihadist-websites.html)



It will be interesting to see if anything comes of this.

[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com 2015-01-09 09:16 pm (UTC)(link)
On the one hand, brutality dictating good taste is utterly abominable and entirely unacceptable. This, I'd hope, would earn 100% approval ratings as far as the comment goes.

However, we're also talking the state that invented the modern use of bloodshed for political purposes as far back as the French Revolution and the Reign of Terror in 1792. In one sense, one could actually say the Islamists are aping the France of Robespierre aiming to see if the France of Hollande will act like the USA of George "Mission Accomplished" Bush. Since we are talking France, it's a fifty-fifty bet.