[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics

http://www.itv.com/news/update/2014-06-12/iranian-troops-help-iraq-re-take-iraqi-town-of-tikrit/

And so, in a masterful display of the unpredictable shift of geopolitics, the day was 'saved' when the Iranians decided to step in to bail out their proxy in charge of Iraq. Iranian soldiers, unlike the soldiers of the US-created and US-equipped Iraqi army, were more effective in fighting a relatively small number of militants who demonstrate one of the most basic and dangerous aspects of civil wars. Specifically that when they begin in one country, that seldom means that they stay within the border of that country. In a fine demonstration of the success of the anti-Iranian and supposedly anti-Islamist policies of the United States, a force predominantly supplied by one of the most fanatical regimes in the Middle East, a regime inherently dependent on the United States, is fighting a war with a proxy of the Iranians who have an army equipped by the United States.

More such successes, and Iran will be the geopolitical overlord of all of Southwest and Central Asia. What precise benefit did the overthrow of Mr. Hussein get the United States again?

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Date: 14/6/14 17:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
A billion dollar a day war that we'll be paying off for generations?

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Date: 14/6/14 18:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Iran aiding their Shia proxy Iraq, how very unpredictable ;)

Iran will be the geopolitical overlord of all of Southwest and Central Asia

Provided that Saudi Arabia and Pakistan suddenly disappear from reality, that is.

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Date: 14/6/14 20:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Ah Iran. Another foreign policy success story.
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Date: 14/6/14 18:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Well played, Rowhani.

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Date: 14/6/14 21:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] pastorlenny.livejournal.com
Affordable healthcare.

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Date: 15/6/14 02:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I wonder what it cost to train them?

Because billions of dollars bought us soldiers who abandoned their weapons.

What precise benefit did the overthrow of Mr. Hussein get the United States again?

We improved their oil infrastructure and started trading it on the petrodollar. Notice the south wasn't going up in flames?

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Date: 15/6/14 04:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
No, I wasn't aware. I knew there were refineries and ports in Basra, but I didn't know where the reserves were located. I presumed it was closer to the south though, since its often said they just need to poke a hole in the ground and route it to a ship. I knew that some of the oil sabotage that happened during our occupation was in Basra, so I presumed the rest.

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Date: 17/6/14 15:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Interesting. Thanks for the the information. I have no other comment.

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Date: 15/6/14 05:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
There are some in basra, but there are huge ones in mosul. Curious.

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Why?

Date: 15/6/14 14:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ed-rex.livejournal.com
Why do you hate freedom so, [livejournal.com profile] underlankers?

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Date: 15/6/14 21:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Why not in the voice of Alex Jones. Or Jesse Ventura. Or better yet, Michael Moore.

Or at least NdGT.

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Date: 18/6/14 00:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I don't narrarate often, but when I do, I explain the Universe!

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Date: 18/6/14 06:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Picture won't open.

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Date: 15/6/14 22:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
You forgot to mention that throughout the Iraq war that between 25% and 50% of the jihadi groups active in Iraq during the war were backed by the IRGC. So basically what we have is Iran making the same move that the US so often does. Get a proxy war going and then use that as an excuse to send your own guys in.

I fugure that Maliki wants to be in bed with the Iranians but it remains to be seen how the more Sunni and Sufi aligned south will take that.

Not well, I imagine.
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Date: 16/6/14 01:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Saudis can be included in that mix funding Sunni radicals. I want no part of it.

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Date: 17/6/14 18:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Openly in bed vice simply giving hand-jobs under the table.

And well no shit, never claimed that Maliki was anything other than bad news. The only question was just how "third-world-dictator" he was going to go, and now it seems we have our answer.

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Date: 16/6/14 00:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] oportet.livejournal.com
It's put us up 2-0 against them. For the sake of our economy, I hope this is a best of 5 series...
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Date: 16/6/14 16:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Countries have been finding themselves in the Axis of Evil(TM) for that sort of impudence.

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