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Now the Long Knives are poised right in the back of Ukraine:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26400035
Fucking brilliant approach, this. First the attempt to play divide and conquer in Ukraine pretty transparently crashed and burned with the retun of Ukraine's Benazir Bhutto to political influence. Then, the Russians decide evidently that they really did move in Russian Army soldiers into the Crimea. Because the proper instinct when a risky gamble fails is to raise the stakes. This is not going to end well by any means. Now I'm wondering how long Lucashenko will have a country to rule as dictator, and what might happen with Round II with Georgia. If Tsar Vladimir I of the House of Putin succeeds in this kind of thing, that will only encourage him to expand his wars of aggression further because Ukraine is rather larger than Georgia, and this would permit Russia to begin aspiring to regain aspects of the old Tsarist boundaries. I sincerely expected Russia would use Central Asia for this kind of thing, not Ukraine.
The EU wouldn't give a damn about invading Muslims in Kazakhstan, but invading an EU state? That's not going to lead Russia to do anything but decide to engage in still-larger wars of aggression in the long term.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/
And one of the chambers of the Russian legislature just approved this request. Hoo, boy.
Shit got real-er:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26403996
The Ukrainian Army is now on full combat alert. The prospect that the centennial year of the First World War will see the first large-scale conventional European war in decades has risen exponentially.
Fucking brilliant approach, this. First the attempt to play divide and conquer in Ukraine pretty transparently crashed and burned with the retun of Ukraine's Benazir Bhutto to political influence. Then, the Russians decide evidently that they really did move in Russian Army soldiers into the Crimea. Because the proper instinct when a risky gamble fails is to raise the stakes. This is not going to end well by any means. Now I'm wondering how long Lucashenko will have a country to rule as dictator, and what might happen with Round II with Georgia. If Tsar Vladimir I of the House of Putin succeeds in this kind of thing, that will only encourage him to expand his wars of aggression further because Ukraine is rather larger than Georgia, and this would permit Russia to begin aspiring to regain aspects of the old Tsarist boundaries. I sincerely expected Russia would use Central Asia for this kind of thing, not Ukraine.
The EU wouldn't give a damn about invading Muslims in Kazakhstan, but invading an EU state? That's not going to lead Russia to do anything but decide to engage in still-larger wars of aggression in the long term.
http://www.cnn.com/2014/03/01/world/europe/ukraine-politics/
And one of the chambers of the Russian legislature just approved this request. Hoo, boy.
Shit got real-er:
http://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-26403996
The Ukrainian Army is now on full combat alert. The prospect that the centennial year of the First World War will see the first large-scale conventional European war in decades has risen exponentially.
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but what we see now it`s another story, it`s not a secession, it`s an invasion, fearful Putin exporting his dictatorship
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Leaders of Ukraine: Klitschko, Yatsenyuk and Tyagniboka. :-)))
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Ukraine let Russia have most of the Black Sea Fleet and gave up all of the nuclear weapons the former USSR had in Ukraine in the 1990s. Part of the idea of these moves was that the newly formed Russian Federation would recognize the existing boundaries of the former Soviet states. No good, I suppose. Putin wants vassals instead of neighbors. If I were the government of a Baltic state right now, I'd be very nervous.
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:P
Most of the Ukrainians I know here despise Putin.
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What could possibly go wrong (http://www.nytimes.com/2014/02/24/us/politics/pentagon-plans-to-shrink-army-to-pre-world-war-ii-level.html)? Likewise do not allow this moment of prescience (http://blog.foreignpolicy.com/posts/2008/10/22/russia_might_invade_ukraine_if_obama_wins_palin_warns) distract you from the fact that Sarah Palin is still a dumb bitch.
Gotta say though, "Uncontested arrival" is one if the best Orwellian euphemism for war since "kinetic action".
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Sarah Palin is still a dumb bitch, along with anyone who thinks that which party the American President comes from affects situations like this.
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So...we have a "strong" President willing to use force and...Russia invades Georgia. Now conservatives say we have the opposite of that I. The White House and...Russia invades Crimea. It's almost as if Putin knows NOBODY is going to fight a war on the behalf of the former Soviet Republics regardless.
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And wrong about pretty much everything else. Death Panels.
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Person is warned.
You're playing chess with a pigeon.
No warning .
What a joke.
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The place (http://talk-politics.livejournal.com/1301765.html) for complaints/feedback/suggestions is elsewhere. Unless you insist burning yourself along with the rest.
I won't have a word of drama beyond this point. And yes, you may consider this a warning to you as well.