[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I'm gonna go ahead and do a little crowd-sourcing for my info!

I recently watched a TED-talk about how there is no such thing as objective journalism. (source) He discusses how the history of journalism and how it's always been about selling the most papers and making that money and who gives a fuck if it's true!

Well, OK. So after I watched that, I went ahead and browsed some news headlines. I saw one that caught my eye, primarily, cause it seemed very much at odds with what I would expect. Here's the headline:

Gov. Andrew Cuomo says gun-loving pro-lifers not welcome in New York, right explodes

As a NYer, this seemed very very odd. Gov Cuomo is a pretty shrewd politician and this year he is up for re-election. It's a not private secret that Cuomo might eye the 2016 nod for President, so he totally wants to be a sitting Gov for that--looks better to the voters and all.

So why the hell would Cuomo alienate two big voting blocks in an election year? NYC might be super-liberal, but upstate NY is kinda rednecky. They love their guns and lotta folks hate on abortion. So what gives Herr Gov?

Well, as I read the article (found here source ) it seemed odder and odder, but I mean, it's possible he said such things. So I go ahead and click on the video link that you will see on that website. It's not actually video, just a still picture while some audio plays. This is unfortunate. I must admit here I have not heard Gov. Cuomo make many speeches. None in person and only bits here and there from his State of the State or whatnot. But as I listened to the embeded audio I became more and more skeptical that this voice was the voice of Andrew Cuomo. (The article already lost some credibility when in the first line it said his name was "Gov. Chris Cuomo")

I'm about ready to reject the entire so-called news story. I don't want to believe that they made the entire thing up--but I really don't see much choice. I went and found a video with audio of Cuomo talking (I do know what the guy looks like!) and the voice and cadence don't seem to mesh with the voice of the fellow who is alienating pro-life, pro-gun voters.


I am willing to be wrong.
A) Do any of you think that Cuomo did make such comments? Why?
B) If Cuomo did make such comments, I gotta lose some respect for his political prowess (not that he's my favorite politician, but I did at least think he knew what he was doing, even if I didn't like what he was doing) cause it seems really dumb to make those sorts of statements in an election year. Do any of you see his comments in a different light?
C) Objective journalism might not exist; but we can all agree that news isn't news if its totally false, right? Then it's just fiction? And while journalism may be heavily editorialized it should at least have some grounding in fact, otherwise, it's like Glenn Beck's chalkboard--worthless.

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Date: 19/1/14 14:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wuvvumsoc.livejournal.com
I still don't get it. Is this a reaction image?

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Date: 19/1/14 14:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
No, it's 1988 Democratic nominee and former Massachusetts governor Michael Dukakis. Let's just say his candidacy didn't go so well for the Democrats.

In fact, there are a few parallels you could draw between his candidacy and Mitt Romney's in terms of perception and execution.

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Date: 19/1/14 15:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wuvvumsoc.livejournal.com
Thank you for explaining. That was something before my time(wasn't even born then), I guess that reputation stuck then?

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Date: 19/1/14 15:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
It's stuck for a few reasons, not just because of Dukakis, but for the Romneys and Cuomos and so on. If you read up on some of the ideas behind the "northeastern liberal" thing, a lot of those stereotypes are based in part on northeastern Democratic governors.

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Date: 19/1/14 15:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] wuvvumsoc.livejournal.com
I have to get going to work but anything else you want to tell me about this subject would be appreciated. I'll take a look when I am back today.

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Date: 19/1/14 20:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Let's just say his candidacy didn't go so well for the Democrats.

His losing (largely to Willy Horton) didn't go so well for the country, either. ;-)

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Date: 19/1/14 20:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
If Dukakis wins, we don't get Bill Clinton. That's not really a positive.

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Date: 19/1/14 20:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Sure Bill comes along, after 8 years is all.

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