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talkpoliticsIt's looks like Syria is about to be attacked (if it hasn't started already) by coalition of France, USA and UK. The premise is supposed to stop the Syrians from poison gassing of it's own people in order to stop rebellion.
At issue however is Russia will not want to loose it's huge military base in Syria. It would be like USA loosing it's base in Saudi Arabia.
Not to forget Russia securing the oil. Saudi has not only made a deal to secure Russia future oil contract if it stays out, but has threatened Russia if it becomes involved. Specifically, Saudi Arabia threatening to unleash Chechen terrorists on the Sochi Olympics isn't helping the situation. Saudi Prince claims the Chechens are controlled by them.
At issue however is Russia will not want to loose it's huge military base in Syria. It would be like USA loosing it's base in Saudi Arabia.
Not to forget Russia securing the oil. Saudi has not only made a deal to secure Russia future oil contract if it stays out, but has threatened Russia if it becomes involved. Specifically, Saudi Arabia threatening to unleash Chechen terrorists on the Sochi Olympics isn't helping the situation. Saudi Prince claims the Chechens are controlled by them.
If USA goes to war on Syria, Russia will be forced to defend it. By defending Syria I mean attacking Saudi Arabia. What we have here is a potential WW3.
Reuters reports that Russia is preparing to withdraw some (certain) personal from the Base, which US news seems to read as Russia is getting out of the kitchen. However, Putin himself just ordered a MASSIVE MILITARY STRIKE AGAINST SAUDI ARABIA if/when Syria is attacked. In refusing the threat (that Saudi will use Chechen terrorists under Saudi Arabian control to attack Russia,) Putin said from the Kremlin, "Our position on Assad will never change. We believe the Syrian Regime is the best speaker on behalf of the Syrian people, and not those liver eaters". Frankly this scares the shit out of me. Russia will defend Assad. Russia will attack Saudi Arabia.
This confirms Russian fears that Saudi Arabia is pushing for war Russian conspiracy from the Russian Foreign Ministry's Aleksandr Lukashevich believe's the chemical weapons accusation is an American false flag operation similar to the accusation of WMD's in Iraq. This is merely conspiracy yet it is confirmed within Wikileaks Syria Files that plans to topple Syria (as well as Iran) with false flags have been in the works for some years now.
The UN inspectors have yet to complete their difficult mission investigating these chemical weapon attacks, despite USA's John Kerry boldly stating the "facts are undeniable" The UN inspectors are expected to report their finding on Saturday. This could be delayed as inspectors have been shot at by snipers. Who those snipers are working for isn't exactly clear.
Bottom line is what we all want is basic freedom, and by that we usually mean safety and security for all people. All the other implications of freedom come secondary. We don't care if a country has freedom of press as long as people have a sense of personal safety. I assume this is the international norm Kerry was talking about. That would be what I read into the general foreign policy of USA in recent decades. Our sense of freedom doesn't respect the sovereignty of a nation when it attacks it's own peoples. However, going to war in Syria will (in all likelihood) have wider consequences then simply protecting the population. Consequences could mean WW3.
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Date: 29/8/13 18:36 (UTC)less than sign a href="link">then you put blue text here that we will see, then you close it with another
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Date: 29/8/13 18:46 (UTC)I'm having a hard time imagining Putin actually doing something as crazy as this; I have a mental image of him that's egotistical as fuck but not insane. Perhaps I'm wrong.
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Date: 29/8/13 18:54 (UTC)Any guesses who the snipers are working for? Assad? USA? Israel? Saudi Arabia?
Why are snipers missing their target? Just a scare tactic?
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Date: 29/8/13 19:04 (UTC)Maybe they snipers are just bad at their jobs? I don't know.
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Date: 30/8/13 02:13 (UTC)The U.S. has been trying to dissuade the UN inspectors since the beginning and the Administration has gone on record saying its final decision will be based on its own U.S. intelligence assessment being funneled from supposed Mossad spies in Syria to the CIA and to the President, *not* the final report of the inspectors who have been given a hard enough time trying to do their job. Hardly a trustworthy bunch given all their mutual interest in a regime change for Syria.
I'm having a hard time imagining Putin actually doing something as crazy as this; I have a mental image of him that's egotistical as fuck but not insane.
I'm curious why you are calling out Putin as insane if he does this. Wouldn't Obama do the same if one of *the U.S.'s* allies was suddenly being attacked to protect their economic and military interests? Would you blame them the same way you are blaming Russia here? To me both will be guilty for the consequences that follow.
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Date: 30/8/13 02:17 (UTC)2) if that ally was using chemical weapons on civilians? I would hope he wouldn't, but realpolitik tells me he might. But I think that picking a fight with the only superpower left is pretty stupid.
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Date: 30/8/13 02:33 (UTC)But yes, history shows the U.S. will step in covertly or otherwise if one of their propped-up dictatorships is being threatened, regardless of how they treat their own people.
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Date: 29/8/13 20:31 (UTC)That's a huge jump there isn't it?
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Date: 29/8/13 21:07 (UTC)At this reading, my first thought was recommending the author to switch over to marijuana LIGHTS.
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Date: 30/8/13 00:37 (UTC)*eyebrow raise.*
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Date: 30/8/13 02:14 (UTC)Putin did not say he will strike Saudi Arabia if the west attacks Syria. I know you provided a link. Can you provide more proof?
I doubt the veracity of that statement; without that, the situation is less scary.
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Date: 30/8/13 03:16 (UTC)I'd also be a bit surprised if Saudi Arabia actually threatened Russia and told them they control the Chechen rebels. Of course, it's possible that a single story from an unknown source would have uncovered two of the biggest scoops of the year in one story, but I'm skeptical.
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Date: 30/8/13 03:41 (UTC)Signal can be hard to find among the noise.
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Date: 30/8/13 22:44 (UTC)I wouldn't wanna be living in Tel Aviv next week.
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