[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I cannot understand this whole SNAP debacle that is being played out and talked about. I do not understand how ANYONE can be against feeding the hungry. I am willing to concede that there will be waste and fraud. I cannot imagine what system(s) would not have *some* waste and fraud. That said, waste and fraud are bad, but, let's not go throwing the baby out with the bath water, eh?

Food is NOT an option for people. Neither is water. These two things are HUMAN RIGHTS as far as I am concerned. Nobody, anywhere, should be deprived of access to food and water. And you know what, these things, in their most basic form (ie. basic food staples, not fancy food feasts), should be free. That's right, free. For *every single person*.

I understand that to some cold-hearted demons out there, people only deserve food and water if they *work* for it. Well fuck that. Work is not the pre-requisite, IMO, for food or water. Those should be denied to NOBODY.

I have a question to ask folks here, and I'm not sure I will be able to stomach the responses, but here goes:

Under what circumstances should a hungry person be denied food/water?

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Date: 26/6/13 04:21 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
but as people are fond of saying, gas isn't necessary to live.

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Date: 26/6/13 04:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] cheezyfish.livejournal.com
But food is, and that is a commodity?

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Date: 26/6/13 06:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
Depends on the type of food. Some have tried sunlight, but that didn't work out too well.

http://www.nydailynews.com/life-style/health/swiss-women-dies-giving-water-food-thought-live-sunlight-article-1.1067359

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Date: 26/6/13 15:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
food is different. You're actually paying for the food, not the delivery service.

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Date: 26/6/13 17:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
I really don't see how it is different.

The Farmer/Butcher/Grocer has something you need, food, and you have something they want, money or labor.

A trade is negotiated.

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Date: 26/6/13 07:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
By that standard neither is treated water.

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Date: 26/6/13 17:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Treated water is not strictly required for survival,

You could drink from streams or rain barrels, but your quality of life would likely decline.

Likewise you could try to live without utilizing gas or electricity generated by the same, but again your quality of life would likely decline.

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Date: 26/6/13 18:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
and lord knows, profit is more important than THAT.

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Date: 26/6/13 18:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
If wishes were horses beggars would ride.

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Date: 26/6/13 18:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
lord knows, you wouldn't want to do anything about THAT.

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Date: 27/6/13 21:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
The concept of the commons or sharing is really under appreciated.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Commons
Edited Date: 27/6/13 21:49 (UTC)

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Date: 28/6/13 21:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
There are also numerous reasons that as a concept it is often associated with tragedy.

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