[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
I cannot understand this whole SNAP debacle that is being played out and talked about. I do not understand how ANYONE can be against feeding the hungry. I am willing to concede that there will be waste and fraud. I cannot imagine what system(s) would not have *some* waste and fraud. That said, waste and fraud are bad, but, let's not go throwing the baby out with the bath water, eh?

Food is NOT an option for people. Neither is water. These two things are HUMAN RIGHTS as far as I am concerned. Nobody, anywhere, should be deprived of access to food and water. And you know what, these things, in their most basic form (ie. basic food staples, not fancy food feasts), should be free. That's right, free. For *every single person*.

I understand that to some cold-hearted demons out there, people only deserve food and water if they *work* for it. Well fuck that. Work is not the pre-requisite, IMO, for food or water. Those should be denied to NOBODY.

I have a question to ask folks here, and I'm not sure I will be able to stomach the responses, but here goes:

Under what circumstances should a hungry person be denied food/water?

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Date: 25/6/13 21:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
what he's saying is that access to water isn't a right.

That's a terrible thing, jack.

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Date: 25/6/13 21:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Because it's unenforceable. Do the people that need it have access to plants that clean and filter water? Do they have the know how to operate them? Probably not. So an evil company comes in and does this. Should they give the water away after they have incurred heavy costs?

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Date: 25/6/13 22:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paft.livejournal.com
404: Should they give the water away after they have incurred heavy costs?

You can't seem to make up your mind whether to argue that private companies would never, NEVER deny water to those who couldn't pay for it or to argue that, of COURSE they'll deny water to those who couldn't pay for it.

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Date: 25/6/13 21:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Look man, WHY DO YOU PLACE CORPORATIONS AHEAD OF HUMANS!?!

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Date: 26/6/13 06:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
And since both corporations and people are people, but corporations are much bigger than people, they matter more.

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Date: 26/6/13 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Why do you want to enslave desalinzation plant workers?

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Date: 26/6/13 17:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Do you?

My response was no more, or less, serious then " WHY DO YOU PLACE CORPORATIONS AHEAD OF HUMANS!?!"

Turn-about is fair play.

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Date: 26/6/13 02:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
It's true though.

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