[identity profile] paft.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
So The Mercatus, a right-wing think tank, has declared North Dakota -- which recently passed an incredibly restrictive anti-abortion law, one of the free-est of all the fifty states

Once again, we see that when right wing libertarians use the word "liberty," they're using their own extra-special definition of it. As Salon has pointed out reproductive freedom apparently isn't even entered into the calculations,

Women, you see, just don't count.



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Date: 1/4/13 00:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Not in this case. I wouldn't defend the right of an Imam to brainwash kids any more than I'd defend the right of Christians to do it. What's wrong for Muslims to do is also wrong for Christians to do.

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Date: 1/4/13 01:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
Meh comparing my home school grandkids to the public school grandkids (note, easy comparison since I have two sets the same age (13,10, and 8) they all are being brainwashed/indoctrinated. The main difference is that one set of parents doesn't have sort thru it all :D. (note none of them are learning about three headed fire-breathing dragons ;-) altho it's quite possible the public school 13 year old believes in vampires)

While personally I disagree, I think the Imam does have the "right", I appreciate your consistency.

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Date: 1/4/13 03:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
IMHO medieval brainwashing is wrong regardless of what form it wears. The problem I've seen is that when people try to find examples of it, what they end up finding is essentially something that is not what they say it is. In the instance of people like that guy in Yemen, there is a good reason to go after those people, because they're a threat to the state. I know I go after Christian fundamentalists more than I do Islamists, but that's because to me there are a lot more Christian fundamentalists that keep voting in policies that go somewhere, like those people in North Dakota, than there are Muslim fundamentalists in the United States.

So in truth if there were Muslim madrassas teaching the equivalent Islamist ideas to this, I would oppose them as inflexibly as I do Christian schools that teach the KKK was wonderful and the Leviathan, multiple heads and fire breath and all, actually existed.

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Date: 1/4/13 04:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] geezer-also.livejournal.com
As far as I am aware, it is legal to teach pretty much any thing you want except sedition. And that is all I'm saying, and probably that is what sw was saying.

Seriously, you believe in dinosaurs but not a Leviathan?

(joke: since when did you have a humble opinion? Heck, even I use imnsho ;) )

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