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http://newswatch.nationalgeographic.com/2012/12/06/lion-numbers-plunge-as-african-wilderness-succumbs-to-human-pressure/
"The most comprehensive assessment of lion (Panthera leo) numbers to date determined that Africa’s once-thriving savannahs are undergoing massive land-use conversion and burgeoning human population growth. The decline has had a significant impact on the lions that make their home in these savannahs; their numbers have dropped to as low as 32,000, down from hundreds of thousands estimated just 50 years ago."

Those are the results of an extensive research by the Duke University. At this stage of population decline, once the mighty symbol of power in the animal kingdom could well get into the list of endangered species within the next decade, or sooner. The reason for the catastrophic situation is the rapid decline of lion populaces in the wild, on one side... and the systematic destruction of their natural habitat, on the other. And also the hunting for trophies, which is an illustrious business, along with the trade of lion organs throughout the continent.

Every year, thousands of European, American and Australasian tourists flock into Africa with just one purpose: to shoot a lion and bring his skin home. And, while countries like Kenya, Botswana and Zambia have banned lion hunting, here in South Africa this business has turned into a major industry. There are about 160 lion farms spread throughout the country, with a total populace of 5000 lions, whose only purpose is to meet the huge demand on the trophy market. The little cubs are separated from their mothers very early, this way losing the most basic survival skills. They are offered as a tourist attraction for the visitors who take pictures with them, toss food at them, and treat them as pets. Once the cubs have grown up somewhat and are no longer safe for the tourists, they are used for breeding and upon reaching maturity they are added to the shooting lists. The adult lions are then separated into smaller fenced sectors where the wannabe badass heroes-of-the-rifle can "like" them and "reserve" them, and then shoot them without any difficulty.

The situation has reached a point where the beast that used to be the king of the savannah has gotten so used to human presence that some lions deliberately seek contact with them, they often stand right in front of the tourists' muzzles, and become an easy target. Some are lured with food, and sometimes they are even shot with sleep arrows to slow them down and allow the rookie shooters to hit them more easily. The "hunting" for captive lions has become a huge problem, not only from an ethical standpoint, but because it is additionally increasing public interest to hunting of wild animals, which is what is collapsing entire ecosystems throughout the African continent. Meanwhile, the cubs who are bred in captivity lack any survival skills, and even if subsequently released into the wilderness, they have no chance of living.

The "canned hunt" as it is called, is additionally facilitated by the fact that no special hunting permit is required by South African law, and neither are any particular skills needed. One could easily "reserve" a lion even on the Internet. The price for a male lion, depending on his age, size and distinctive features, can range between 10 and 25 thousand euro. The price for a lioness is much lower, 3000 euro.

There are organisations advocating for the full ban of canned hunting in the country, and they have established parks like Lion Rock, a former ordinary lion farm, which is now transformed into a sanctuary for big cats. 80 of them now live there, gathered from various zoos, breeding/shooting farms and private homes (yes, some wealthy people do own lions just to show off to their business partners). Nowadays, apart from giving these majestic creatures some chance for relative freedom, NGOs like Four Paws provide a proof that lions could indeed be a tourist attraction, without necessarily ending up on some millionaire's floor as carpets.

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Date: 31/1/13 17:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
The situation has reached a point where the beast that used to be the king of the savannah has gotten so used to human presence that some lions deliberately seek contact with them, they often stand right in front of the tourists' muzzles, and become an easy target.

So you decide to go on a safari. You spend a small fortune on signing up for an exiting hunt -- the King of the Beasts! You get to your location, and you find your lion in a small cage, and as you prep your rifle, it walks up to you and waits, expectantly.

And you shoot it?

What the hell is wrong with people? If there's any evidence that God doesn't exist, it's that we do this thing, this horrible, monstrous act to animals that have been so abused, they don't even have the ability to protect themselves, because I cannot conceive of a God that would allow this to happen.

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Date: 31/1/13 19:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
It makes Sarah Palin seem like a traditional sportsperson.

Image

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Date: 31/1/13 19:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
First time I have heard that.

Sorry, no you tube for this one (http://www.soundclick.com/bands/page_songInfo.cfm?bandID=111310&songID=4042487)

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Date: 31/1/13 20:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Bruce is one of those good Canadian singers we rarely hear about.

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Date: 1/2/13 06:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Very moving number. He knows what he's doing.

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Date: 4/2/13 17:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com


When I worked in Germany in '85 I was surprised to hear Bruce Cockburn's "Rocket Launcher" song played on Armed Forces Radio.

And then there is this one:



The movie glosses over some of the grittier aspects of the book such as soldiers shooting rats scampering across the rafters.

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Date: 4/2/13 19:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I love Sherman Alexie. Fallsapart! Thank you, I've never seen this one.

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Date: 4/2/13 19:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
His new book, Blasphemy, is pretty good.

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Date: 1/2/13 03:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] stewstewstewdio.livejournal.com
If there's any evidence that God doesn't exist, it's that we do this thing, this horrible, monstrous act to animals that have been so abused, they don't even have the ability to protect themselves, because I cannot conceive of a God that would allow this to happen.

The Republican and NRA solution would be to arm the lions with fully automatic military assault weapons and high capacity clips, no background checks necessary.

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Date: 1/2/13 04:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] harry-beast.livejournal.com
In the current situation, the lions are denied any reasonable chance to defend themselves and are at the mercy of bad people. They are, to follow your analogy, "gun controlled" into a state of victimhood.

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Date: 4/2/13 17:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
That sounds like the right to arm bears.

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Date: 31/1/13 17:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
That's very sad.

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Date: 31/1/13 18:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I wonder to what extent this is an artifact of lions having a relatively more specialized lifestyle than say, leopards? From what I understand leopards are the one species of big cat that's adjusting the best to the rise of the modern megacity and megastate era in Africa. This also makes the near-total collapse of the Asiatic Lions make a lot of sense, too. I think the relative obscurity of leopards as a species for the pelt trade might also have something to do with it. I did know Lions are categorized as a 'Threatened' Species. This means they shift to the 'Endangered' category, right? I also thought that CITE I was supposed to put a lid on things like this? Is this a case of law without sufficient means of enforcement?
Edited Date: 31/1/13 18:05 (UTC)

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Date: 31/1/13 18:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
The leopard just walked in front of the car? I'd freakin freak out.....

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Date: 31/1/13 20:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
Yep. The picture is awesome. :)

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Date: 31/1/13 20:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Is it considered acceptable to hunt trophy hunters?
Edited Date: 31/1/13 20:28 (UTC)

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Date: 31/1/13 19:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
That's the gateway to a whole bunch of natural reserves. No surprise the place is teaming with wildlife. You'd never see a leopard in Gauteng. Too overcrowded with humans.
Edited Date: 31/1/13 19:09 (UTC)

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Date: 31/1/13 20:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
True, but I am always of the opinion that wildlife should be treated with a certain degree of healthy respect. Wild animals are not like pets and people still can get eaten for forgetting that. Like Grizzly Adams. Respect does not mean fear or shoot on sight, but it IMHO is always a wise idea.

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Date: 31/1/13 20:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Not to mention some large empathy for another mammal trying to carve out a life in this deadly paradise.

Who could end it so easily. Bah. I don't even like killing deer with anything but a knife or arrow.
Edited Date: 31/1/13 20:27 (UTC)

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Date: 31/1/13 18:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Ain't (http://dingo.care2.com/pictures/c2c/share/58/583/322/583227_370.jpg) they such (http://ens-newswire.com/ens/oct2005/20051025_hunterlion.jpg) badass heroes (http://www.four-paws.us/files/International/Campaigns/Canned_Hunting/Okapia_ToterLoewe_Nutzung_30.06.2012_gross.jpg)?

Shame. Deep shame. Nothing more to say.

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Date: 31/1/13 19:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
no, I'm not clicking on those.

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Date: 31/1/13 20:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Just your standard issue idiot posing with their crimes.

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Date: 31/1/13 19:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Shameful, indeed. What a waste.

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Date: 31/1/13 18:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
My heart sinks seeing this :/ So sad.

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Date: 31/1/13 18:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
The news is depressing, yes, but things could've been so simple. We need a complete overhaul of our legislation about wildlife. We need a system of large protected areas like Kruger that are connected. We need a database on wildlife, and strict control on access to the national parks. And very heavy penalties for poachers. Canned hunting should be banned. Period.

The wild cats population is so depleted in Africa, I'm not sure people realize how serious the situation is. There's even a grassroots push for introducing Indian tigers to Africa (the habitat of the Bengali tiger is now history). But if this were ever done, it has to happen with great caution and strict control on the process. There is room for tigers on this continent, but the measure should be thought through very carefully.

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Date: 1/2/13 07:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
I'm not sure you can, at least not in the South African context.

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Date: 1/2/13 07:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Nonetheless, it is a good post.

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Date: 31/1/13 19:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I have had the exciting experience of encountering cougars in the wild on two different occasions. They are beginning to recover from near extinction in this part of the country. I am sure illegal trophy hunting still goes on. Here (http://www.utsandiego.com/news/2013/jan/12/national-humane-society-honors-hueso/) is an article on the issue of Dan Richards' lion hunting in Idaho.

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Date: 31/1/13 19:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Its an apocalypse of animals everywhere I look.

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Date: 31/1/13 21:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Hopefully something will be done. Heck, at one point here in the States the symbol of our country, the bald eagle, nearly went extinct. We hunted, yes, which was outlawed; but once we dumped the DDT those bad birds bounced right back.

Now they're as thick as pigeons in this town. Just yesterday, in fact, one shat on my windshield.

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Date: 31/1/13 23:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Personally I think "canned hunts" should be outlawed, it's not even a sport at that point and if you can't really argue for culling the population when you're freaking breeding them for it. It has no purpose, at all.

As for the lion map, the most depletion seems to be in the north, is desertification going on up there?

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Date: 1/2/13 09:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Sahel region then, the red dots seems to be mostly around Somalia and Ethiopia

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Date: 2/2/13 15:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
reddish orange ;p

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Date: 1/2/13 07:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
Can't help noticing that the huge territory of DR Congo is almost empty of any lions. That may've been because of the giant lion-eating super-chimps of the magic forest (http://www.guardian.co.uk/science/2007/jul/14/conservation.internationalnews)...

On a serious note though, the invasion of wildlife habitats and the turning of predators into pets that are bred for shooting, is one of the most shameful displays of human arrogance possibly imaginable.

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