[identity profile] stewstewstewdio.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Does this ring a bell at all?  This is from the movie The Dictator starring Sasha Baron Cohen (Borat).  This is the speech he made at the end of the movie trying to justify a dictatorship for his mythical country.  He contrasts what America would be like as a dictatorship as opposed to the current democracy of the people.




Does this sound like anyplace we know?  The potential image of the America he describes sounds like USA circa 2008.  A while back there was a rant from Jeff Daniels in a clip from The Newsroom that was an attempt at ideological philosophy.  I believe this is more effectively done with biting satire when a piece of fiction is involved.

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Date: 22/1/13 14:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
That Sasha Baron Cohen. He's even got a foreign-sounding name.

Or alternatively: that Sasha Baron Cohen, what an example of over-educated upper-middle-class privilege.

Or maybe…that SBC, hits the nail right on the head yet again.

Or even all of the above.

Perhaps we can conduct a poll: and I wonder if we can predict which of our esteemed pundits would opt for which answer?

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Date: 22/1/13 14:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, but I am going to ask you to expand a little bit. What is the video about? What is your take on it? Why is it an issue? Etc. You know that there is need at least for a little personal input in any post.

Thanks in advance. Oh, almost forgot. 1 hour.

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Date: 22/1/13 14:35 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silberstreif.livejournal.com
Love the moment where he say that you could fill your prisons with one particular race and the camera then shows a black man. :)
Edited Date: 22/1/13 16:07 (UTC)

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Date: 22/1/13 15:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
There has been some resistance from particular members to this requirement for personal input in posts (for various reasons: either out of sheer laziness, or as an attempt to test how far its limits really stretch). But, as has been explained multiple times here, this requirement is basically what defines this community, and distinguishes it from others (take a look at ONTD-political to get an idea). So, the bottom line is, personal input (as opposed to a link/article/news/video/picture/graph-dump), is essential. In short, the reader should have already created some rough idea in their haed about what is to be discussed in a post, even without having to read the linked article / watched the embedded video, etc.

However I do understand your motivations, and I accept your amendment.

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Date: 22/1/13 17:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Excellent. You have just been added to a database of terrorist suspects. Happy waterboarding!

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Date: 22/1/13 17:12 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
Everyone knows that is an exaggeration. There are plenty of Latinos, Native Americans, and white supremacists in American prisons. There is no racial monopoly.

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Date: 22/1/13 17:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
His name only sounds foreign in England.

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Date: 22/1/13 18:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] silberstreif.livejournal.com
Of course it is an exaggeration. My comment was more about the way it was hinted at than anything else, though I can see how it can be understood as something different.

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Date: 22/1/13 21:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I'm sorry, what?

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Date: 22/1/13 23:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I can tell this is going to be polarizing because this is a comedian and some people don't have a sense of humor.

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Date: 23/1/13 04:11 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foreverbeach.livejournal.com
Oh yeah, all of that has changed since Obama took over!

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Date: 23/1/13 07:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
Some may have, but it somehow mysteriously disappears when the joke affects their "side".

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Date: 23/1/13 21:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
I just know political culture too much

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Date: 27/1/13 21:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
I see only two ethnic groups. Where are the Natives, Latinos, and cetera?

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Date: 27/1/13 22:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
The graph was excluding them. They are a smaller percentage.

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Date: 28/1/13 16:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
It would be interesting to see what the graph would look like normalized to demographics. For example, it shows the African American prison population at a level of about 0.6, but the overall African American population is much less than 0.6.