[identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
A few cases involving the mandates on employers have come down in the last week, which raise some interesting issues:

* In Tyndale House Publishers v. Sebelius, the Washington, DC district court granted an injunction on penalties stemming from the publishing house's refusal to offer contraceptive coverage, citing religious freedom. Of the key findings from the ruling, it was held that even the indirect burden is enough to cause a religious liberty issue, and that the government lacked a compelling interest in handing down the mandate.

* In Hobby Lobby Stores, Inc. v. Sebelius, an Oklahoma district court ruled in favor of the federal government in part because the ruling differentiated between for-profit and religious corporations, making a distinction between organizations involved in worship and organizations that, at least according to this judge, are for-profit or simply religiously-associated.

We now have 4 lower court rulings in play right now regarding the contraception mandate. All four involved for-profit institutions, only Hobby Lobby ruling in favor of the government on the issue, and none of this has anything to do with the Liberty University case that just made it back to the 4th Circuit.

Why shouldn't corporate entities have religious freedom rights? Especially in the case of places like Hobby Lobby, who outright state that '[T]he foundation of our business has been, and will continue to be strong values, and honoring the Lord in a manner consistent with Biblical principles." Given the first amendment, hasn't the government clearly overstepped their bounds?

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Date: 9/12/12 21:30 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The only way that an organization can avoid covering their employees is by reducing them to part-time status. This is what a number of businesses have announced doing. I can see a business getting away with such a crass attitude, but the Church will lose a significant degree of credibility by doing something like that.

As for not having to convince me, the Supreme Court is probably more difficult to convince than I am.

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Date: 10/12/12 01:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
The only way that an organization can avoid covering their employees is by reducing them to part-time status.

or they can just drop insurance coverage for their employees altogether (http://money.cnn.com/2012/07/24/pf/health-coverage-employers/index.htm).

the Church will lose a significant degree of credibility by doing something like that

it would lose more credibility by turning a blind eye to its most basic religious beliefs.

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Date: 10/12/12 16:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The ban on birth control is far far a basic religious belief. It is a hold-over from pre-Christian Rome. Birth control was banned by Rome because of a fear of losing power due to a reduction in population. Ever since the days of Constantine Catholics have had a difficult time distinguishing Roman law from religion.

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Date: 11/12/12 03:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
Fortunately, you don't get to define what is and what isn't a basic religious belief.

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Date: 11/12/12 16:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
There was a time when the Vatican had a monopoly on that semantic. Fortunately, they have lost their patent.

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