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Surely in the glory days of the Victorian age, politics was more civilized and more elegant than it was today. Why we lost out on a great and glorious age of civility in political discourse, when the politician from a lower-class background with a silver tongue was bashed for such an absurdity and the one who had an illegitimate child was bashed for his paying child support. What a civilized and vanished day those long-vanished times were.

And now for a completely different question, what are your favorite political cartoons?

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Date: 26/10/12 11:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I don't have a fav, but this one is interesting...

Image

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Date: 27/10/12 03:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
what are you talking about? That's the Mitt Romney Marines, bucko!

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Date: 27/10/12 07:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
http://usmilitary.about.com/cs/marines/a/marinehorse.htm

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Date: 26/10/12 19:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
Ooh, I likey.

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Date: 29/10/12 00:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
I hadn't seen that before, and it's brilliant.

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Date: 26/10/12 11:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
Often the best political cartoons are of-the-moment. Aptness, though not everything, is still crucial. The best political cartoonists' work, in general, loses context and humour pretty quickly, excepting to students of the format, or political historians.

I wonder if a more incisive question might be about political cartoonists, though I will readily admit that such a question would exclude one-off works of true genius extrinsic to the quality of the regular canon of a particular artist's oeuvre.

One of the best, which I can no longer source as I remember it from five or six years ago, was Tom Toles' 'toon of a donkey-headed Charlie Brown actually managing to kick the ball between the posts. Mind you, given the stasis of the three branches of the US Executive, this cartoon might be apt even now.

[livejournal.com profile] politicartoons is a pretty good place to go to for 'em. Not what it once was, back in LJ's heyday: but that could be said of us all.

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Date: 26/10/12 12:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
Not a cartoon, per se, but your post reminded me of this:

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Date: 27/10/12 07:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com
Not enough candidtates run on the "Adultery" or "Babys on spikes" platforms.

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Date: 26/10/12 13:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
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"Now, plug it up!" [Nejse, zapushi ja!]
(Now that you've shot me, will you close my wound please)


Context:

The guy lying down mortally wounded is Aleko Konstantinov (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aleko_Konstantinov), a Bulgarian writer from the turn of the 19-20 century. He traveled a lot, including a visit to America, and wrote novels, journalistic analyses and essays that were very relevant for the time. It was the time when the post-Ottoman Bulgarian society was just shaking off the Medieval mentality that had existed for centuries, and trying to modernize itself. Searching for its new identity in a confusing world full of war, social strife and super-fast changes that we didn't always find easy to cope with.

And who's the guy standing above him, who has just shot him? Well, Aleko was most famous for his character Bay Ganyo (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bay_Ganyo), a cartoonish caricature of the typical Balkan type: retrograde, narrow-minded, mean, selfish and primitive. Bay Ganyo traveled around Europe trying to sell jars of rose oil that's such a famous trademark for Bulgaria; everywhere he went, his Balkanish primitivism collided with the local cultures and mores, and hilarious situations ensued.

In the later stages of Konstantinov's work, Bay Ganyo was already back home in BG, using his "experience" to run an election campaign for his party. In these later stories, the author reflected the turbulent political times in Bulgaria at the time, showing the phenomenon that we call here "The misunderstood civilization": a nation still not ready to fully grasp the principles of democracy and to understand how an open society works, let alone the free market. A nation experiencing rapid economic development, but struggling to find its way through the jungle of rapid social and political transformation that goes with it. Bay Ganyo became the symbol of the new opportunistic class of wannabe politicians who often went to grotesque lengths and stopped at nothing in order to accumulate as much power (and wealth) as possible - including mercilessly smearing their opponents, corrupting government officials, blackmailing entrepreneurs, racketeering the common folk, and of course... assassinations.

In an ironic twist of fate, Aleko Konstantinov himself was eventually killed by his political opponents, because he never held his tongue and always strove to expose the wrongdoings of the ruling elite. They never forgave him for it, so he was eventually eliminated.

This cartoon here is from that time (1897), Aleko's most famous character Bay Ganyo, the paragon of Balkanness, taking his next victim on his way to political invincibility: his own creator.

Aleko remains in our history as the founder of the Bulgarian tourist movement. The first tourist center on top of the majestic Vitosha mountain just above Sofia is named after him.

Sadly, now looking back at his stories and essays, we realize that not much has changed since those times. Only we wear more "modern" clothes and use more modern gadgets these days. But what had been in our brains back then, is pretty much what is inside our heads now, too. ;-(

Bay Ganyo reading a book:
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Typical Balkanite:
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Edited Date: 26/10/12 13:07 (UTC)

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Date: 26/10/12 14:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Reading your explanation, the cartoon obviously is rich of subtext and has a piercing insight. You guys must have a great school of cartoonists.

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Date: 26/10/12 14:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
He does look like Mario, come to think of it! :-)

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Date: 27/10/12 03:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
It'sa him!

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Date: 26/10/12 14:01 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
My fave cartoons? Anything by Zapiro. This guy is awesome.
http://zapiro.webvanta.com/

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Date: 26/10/12 15:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] lai-choi-san.livejournal.com
Two 2011 cartoons I found brilliant (the man is Cameron) :

Image (http://lai-choi-san.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/418/4788)

Image (http://lai-choi-san.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/418/4896)

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Date: 26/10/12 20:28 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Cool. I love the multiple perspective thing.

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Date: 26/10/12 18:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] zebra24.livejournal.com
Image (http://ricochet.com/member-feed/Damn-it-feels-good-to-be-a-libertarian.-We-have-the-space-to-play-the-game)

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Date: 27/10/12 03:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
simplistic.

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Date: 26/10/12 20:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] peristaltor.livejournal.com
I've always been fond of Horsey:

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Not his best, but searching for these is a bitch since the P-I folded.
Edited Date: 26/10/12 20:12 (UTC)

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Date: 26/10/12 20:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Bloom County

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Date: 27/10/12 03:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
score!

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Date: 27/10/12 10:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] johnny9fingers.livejournal.com
This is a good 'un.

http://i.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/591/28382 (http://i.livejournal.com/pics/catalog/591/28382)

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