[identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
http://news.yahoo.com/boehner-says-loud-hopes-blacks-latinos-wont-show-185558772.html

John Boehner evidently hopes blacks and Latinos won't show up to the election. To judge by the man's own words:

"“This election is about economics… These groups have been hit the hardest. They may not show up and vote for our candidate but I’d suggest to you they won’t show up and vote for the president either.”

But John Boehner is an honorable man and there is nothing to see in terms of GOP predilections to limiting the vote or anything like that, eh? Of course if the actual Speaker of the House is hoping significant portions of the voting bloc that happen to vote for the other side of the spectrum don't show up just conveniently to vote for either side, there is nothing untoward in such a sentiment. There is absolutely no indication that democracy is just a downright chore when it comes to ensuring both sides get a fair shake in voting. Why it's just that the GOP values black and Latino votes so much they hope they er.........never happen.

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Date: 29/8/12 03:58 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] gunslnger.livejournal.com
It takes quite a bit of word twisting to take that quoted statement to mean that he hopes that will happen, instead of the real meaning which is just a statement that he believes it's likely to happen. You seem to be learning from paft fairly well.

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Date: 29/8/12 09:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Literalism is so beautiful, especially when it's convenient, isn't it?

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Date: 29/8/12 17:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
Its not an isolated comment. There is a context to it.

And paft has nothing to do with this post, so why try to make it some personal drama? meh....
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Date: 29/8/12 04:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I feel like this "gotcha!" """"journalism"""" is better suited for lesser comms like ONTD.

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Date: 29/8/12 04:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
It's about suppressing the vote. I don't know that it's "gotcha" journalism when the article quotes GOP officials talking about not accommodating African American urban voters.

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Date: 29/8/12 09:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
*...is flattered*

*bats eyelashes*

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Date: 29/8/12 06:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Well, tough luck I guess, you can't just choose what type of people you want voting in the election... well at least you shouldn't.

Being fair and reasonable would mean accommodating all American I say.
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Date: 29/8/12 09:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Accommodating everybody's interests is the best scenario of course, but is that possible IRL?

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Date: 29/8/12 08:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] root-fu.livejournal.com
The only reason John is in office is because his name contains sexual innuendos.

BOEHNER. BONER.

Americans don't know candidates or what they stand for They vote for sex names.

George Bush. Dick Cheney. John Boehner. Hillary Rodham Clinton. Etcetera, etcetera.

If your name equates to uterus or penis you net votes and gain office.

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Date: 30/8/12 00:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
What's your first name?

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Date: 30/8/12 03:05 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
George H.W. Bush
William J. Clinton

You're theory is invalid.

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Date: 29/8/12 08:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hikarugenji.livejournal.com
I have to agree with gunslinger here; what Boehner is saying is that even if Republicans can't win over blacks and latinos, that doesn't automatically mean they'll be voting for Obama, it just means they may not vote at all. And even if he is saying that he hopes they won't vote, that's not the same thing as voter suppression.

I have no doubt that Boehner supports the various voter suppression attempts around the country, but this quote doesn't really have much to do with it.

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Date: 29/8/12 12:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
Boehner should be spending more time making sure Protestant Evangelicals are not going to stay home rather than vote for a Mormon.

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Date: 29/8/12 09:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
Wow, 3 posts in a day? Wohow!

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Date: 29/8/12 09:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] htpcl.livejournal.com
> restrictions on early voting hours and voter ID laws were meant to keep blacks from voting

OK, dumb forrinner question here.

How does that work? Why does it particularly affect minorities?

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Date: 29/8/12 10:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
minorities are too lazy/dumb/poor to get IDs
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Date: 29/8/12 09:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Well, at least he's one sincere douche of a champion for the Master Race (tm).

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Date: 29/8/12 12:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
When the speakers - who were castigating Romney as a minion of liberalism weeks ago - say they are now his BFF, you have assume at least some of them are lying. This is why I haven't watched either a Republican or Democratic convention in twenty years. It is also why no one believes politicians. They make lying an art form.

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Date: 30/8/12 03:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
As the old joke goes:

How do you know when a politician is lying?

Their lips are moving....

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Date: 29/8/12 16:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] 404.livejournal.com
Voter apathy doesn't imply active suppressing of voting, regardless of your torturous twisting of words to create a narrative would want us to believe.

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Date: 29/8/12 17:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The real question is did Boehner cry when he said that?
Edited Date: 29/8/12 17:08 (UTC)

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Date: 29/8/12 23:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Sounds more like a rhetorical question rather than a real one. ;-)

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Date: 30/8/12 00:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
The election is about economics for sure. A handful of billionaires, donating to a couple of right-wing SuperPaks, should guarantee an American plutocracy that will last for decades.

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Date: 30/8/12 03:06 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com
This election to be decided by a few key swing corporations.....

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Date: 30/8/12 18:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Just in:


A federal court has ruled against Texas law that would require voters to present photo IDs to election officials before being allowed to cast ballots in November. A three-judge panel in Washington ruled Thursday that the law imposes "strict, unforgiving burdens on the poor" and noted that racial minorities in Texas are more likely to live in poverty.


South Carolina's new laws are being argued in front of the same panel, I think.

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Date: 30/8/12 19:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politikitty.livejournal.com
Poor Texas. Try to push through an egregious redistricting plan designed to silence the growing Hispanic population this *ONE* time and no-one ever forgives you.

/sarcasm

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