[identity profile] sandwichwarrior.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
43 years ago today at 02:56 Zulu, Neil Armstrong became the first human being to stand on the surface of another astronomical body.



Draw what conclusions you will. Personally I prefer to be optimistic.

Eugene Cernan will not be the last man to walk on another world.

We will conquer space in spite of ourselves.

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Date: 21/7/12 21:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
Three years from today, New Horizons will have just finished its flyby of Pluto and will, hopefully, be speeding towards some object in the Kuiper Belt.

I have hope that soon man will.once again walk on the moon, and that we'll make a successful manned mission to Mars within my lifetime.

So long as we don't give in to the foolish and the unadventurous, who would clip our wings and have us leave behind the dream of space.

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Date: 22/7/12 07:32 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ddstory.livejournal.com
we'll make a successful manned mission to Mars within my lifetime

If by "we" you mean the Chinese, they're already busy with the task.

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Date: 23/7/12 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dexeron.livejournal.com
Heck, Voyager 1 is about to leave the solar system entirely. Within a decade, we'll be able to point to it and say, with certainty, "this is the first man-made object to reach interstellar space".

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Date: 21/7/12 22:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
The Solar System and the Universe are vastly different things. The latter can't be done unless relativistic physics is wrong.

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Date: 21/7/12 23:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
The universe will be conquered by our descendants, who will be some combination of human consciousness and robot bodies.

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Date: 21/7/12 23:02 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
Not if we keep defunding NASA! Woo made this political! Aww yeah! High-fives everyone!

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All aboard the awesome express! Choo choo this train ain't stoppin' on just Mars!

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dance all night! get higher jumps on the moon!!!

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Date: 22/7/12 07:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
Someone used to moon-walk (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kXhy7ZsiR50) on a weekly basis.

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Date: 21/7/12 23:04 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hey-its-michael.livejournal.com
I hope so. I find it atrocious that we have not anything, manned-spaceflight wise, this extraordinary since. When I was a kid in the late 80s and early 90s, I used to spend hours buried in astronomy and related books. By this point, almost all of them predicted we would already have a colony on the Moon and visits to Mars. Yet here we are, barely able to maintain a station a little over 100 miles above our heads.

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Date: 21/7/12 23:18 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
As long as we have to depend on a Congress that is only capable of naming post offices, I can't see much hope for space exploration funding in the near future. The present mob couldn't plan a freakin' birthday party together.

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Date: 22/7/12 00:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
A major problem with funding is that as the political winds change, or as economic cycles follow in boom or bust, NASA's ability to plan decade scale projects is sorely compromised.

I propose... the National Exploration of Space Trust.

Instead of funding NASA directly, year to year, the National Government will instead fund a Trust, from which NASA will draw its funds. The variations of politics and economics will still effect how much the National Government can put in, any given year, but the Lump remaining in the Trust will act as evening influence, allowing Nasa to more completely finish long term projects when the funding rug is pulled out from under them. Kind of like a choke coil, or a uninteruptable power supply, except for funding.

This will extend the planning Horizon for all NASA missions, and lead to a more effective use of funds. It will also remove the "Spend it or loose it" dynamic in End of Fiscal Year cycle funding.
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Date: 21/7/12 23:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] anfalicious.livejournal.com
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"I walked all over many astronomical bodies long before '69"

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Date: 21/7/12 23:53 (UTC)
ext_1565: G's telling the truth about future and technology! (SG1-Women in space)
From: [identity profile] normaltrouble.livejournal.com
I am very much a lurker here, but I agree. I think space is still calling to us.
Ad astra, ad aspera. .

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Date: 21/7/12 23:54 (UTC)
ext_1565: G's telling the truth about future and technology! (SG1-Bill Lee)
From: [identity profile] normaltrouble.livejournal.com
And btw, that was my 12th birthday...just sayin.

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Date: 22/7/12 00:17 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
you old, dawg
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Date: 22/7/12 04:46 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] chron-job.livejournal.com
Some people feel that Atlas Shrugged is a wake up call and a warning about our political priorities.

I feel the same way about Lucifer's Hammer (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lucifer%27s_Hammer).

And its a more fun read, to boot.



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Date: 24/7/12 01:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
I love it.

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Date: 22/7/12 00:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sealwhiskers.livejournal.com
I'd rather see us conquer ourselves and explore space.

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Date: 22/7/12 06:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
I don't think we will. Oh, sure, we'll send probes, we'll study things, but we won't live there. Space is not the earthly seas, and planets are not islands and continents. We can't even seem to reclaim the desertifying Sahel, it is far beyond us to bring life to other orbs.

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Date: 22/7/12 07:43 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nairiporter.livejournal.com
150 years ago nobody believed people could fly or travel under the sea surface.

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Date: 23/7/12 13:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
Nit to pick. I do not believe that Armstrong and Aldrin had a moon buggy. So your photo is not from Apollo 11.

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Date: 24/7/12 01:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] yes-justice.livejournal.com
For all mankind.

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