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The New York Times' Frank Bruni published an op-ed piece this weekend on what might be a little noticed story in election year politics but what might also be historically significant: the founding and funding of the American Unity PAC which will provide money to Republican candidates who support same-sex marriage, promising to help them fend off challenges from religious conservatives. The leading financier of the PAC is billionaire hedge fund manager Paul Singer, one of the most important Republican donors in the country. Singer, who is heterosexual, has a gay son and son-in-law married in Massachusetts, and he has been a major financial backer of marriage equality efforts, including providing financial support to key Republicans in the New York legislature who made marriage equality possible. Although Singer is also fully backing Mitt Romney in the Presidential election, his new super PAC promises to give conservative Republicans who see equality for gays and lesbians as proper and necessary room to maneuver in the often brutal primary system.



Republican support for marriage equality and gay rights is not new. Former Massachusetts Governor William Weld was notable for his support of equal treatment for gays and lesbians. President George W. Bush's solicitor general Ted Olson has been public in his campaign for marriage equality. Regardless of these vanguard efforts, however, the majority of Republican voters oppose or strongly oppose same sex marriage at a time when 73% of Americans between 18 and 34 years of age favor same-sex marriage. That support remains high among young conservatives as well. Bruni's piece quotes former RNC chair Ken Mehlman about the inevitable demographic reality: support for same sex marriage among young Americans means that Republican Party official opposition is both doomed and potentially alienating of voters otherwise well disposed to the Republican Party.

The significance of Singer's PAC will be in its ability to give pro-gay rights Republicans room to maneuver within a party whose religious constituency is adamantly opposed to same sex marriage and incredibly important to Republican electoral chances. The Republican "big tent" has narrowed in recent years with each of its constituents demanding a high degree of fidelity from prospective candidates. Religious conservatives will not back candidates who are pro-gay rights and in favor of legal abortion. Anti-tax conservatives demand that candidates sign Grover Norquist's pledge to never vote for higher taxes. Tea Party activists have demanded that candidates not "compromise" conservative principles and have successfully ousted Utah Senator Bob Bennett and Indiana Senator Richard Lugar for being insufficiently conservative. When Senators Bennett and Lugar, with lifetime ratings from the American Conservative Union of 84% and 77% respectively are "insufficiently" conservative, the message to potential GOP candidates is obvious: only narrowly conservative Republicans will enjoy sufficient support from vital Republican constituencies.

For the record, I am aware that similar charges can be made against Democrats. Howard Dean's "fifty state strategy" actually expanded the political range among nationally elected Democrats by heavily recruiting more so-called Blue Dog Democrats to serve in the caucus. I was routinely frustrated in 2009-2010 by progressives calling for the heads of Blue Dogs who would not support the public option in the health care bill without acknowledging that the only reason Democrats enjoyed such a wide margin in Congress was because of the 54 Blue Dogs in the caucus, and it was the Blue Dog coalition that took it on the chin in 2010, losing half their seats and leaving the remaining Democrats politically narrower.

If Singer's PAC allows younger Republicans or older Republicans who are less affiliated with religious conservatives to take office, it may be one of the most significant steps towards allowing same-sex marriage to move beyond the few states that have already passed it. It could allow candidates in states that are reliably conservative on issues like taxes and business friendliness but socially libertarian to elect governors and legislators who favor marriage equality. On the federal level, Republican representatives who favor same-sex marriage could influence House Republicans to drop their legal support of DOMA and possibly join a growing coalition to repeal DOMA and allow the federal government to recognize couples legally married in states with same-sex marriage to be properly recognized as demanded by the principle of equal protection of the law.

Some of the greatest acheivements in the modern era for Civil Rights in the United States of America were realized when broad coalitions formed across party lines to pass the Civil Rights Act, the Voting Rights Act and Title IX. Partisan trends of the past few decades have severely punished statesmen and stateswomen who have tried to do the same by working with their colleagues on matters of agreement regardless of party affiliation. If gay rights are really to be realized broadly instead of in the enclaves that separate "Blue" and "Red" states from each other, Paul Singer's PAC will have to be successful.

Despite my opposition to most of his politics, I wish him well. Marriage equality in the U.S. will not come from my party "destroying" the Republicans -- it will come from Democrats and Republicans working together for simple justice.

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Date: 12/6/12 15:57 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
I also wish him well. It's sad to me when people like Mitt Romney disown family legacies of non-traditional marriage in favor of the simplistic views held by the GOP and it's nice to see someone with influence standing up to it.

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Date: 12/6/12 16:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
The king of flip-flop kowtows to religious reactionaries for reasons of political gain. Once in office, he would probably resemble the elder Bush more than the younger one.

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Date: 12/6/12 17:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] spiffynamehere.livejournal.com
tbh, given what we've found out about teenage Romney's bigotry and bullying and current Romney dismissing it as teenage hijinks, I can't say I'd vote for any flavor of Mitt Romney.

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Date: 13/6/12 01:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] fizzyland.livejournal.com
Romney just wants to hold America down and shave our heads. Or strap us to the roof of his car until we're crapping ourselves in terror. Okay, Im starting to see your point.

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Date: 13/6/12 06:03 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Gawd I can't get over how... dull his "teenage hijinks" are...

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Date: 13/6/12 14:37 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
he's the asshole fraternity from Revenge of the Nerds personified.

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Date: 12/6/12 16:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Some of Romney's foreign policy advisers are right out of Regan's cabinet (e.g. John Lehman) and given the outrageous comments Romney made about Russia and Putin, no thanks. America doesn't need a revival of Cold War dramaturgy and wondering when the missiles will launch. Especially given the sensitivity of the missile defense system being installed in Eastern Europe. A Russian general recently stated they would be within their rights to launch a strike on those systems during the installation process. I'm not willing to risk that simply because he could revert to George Bush I. Maybe. Perhaps.
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Date: 12/6/12 16:52 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com
It sounds like the Cuban Missile Crisis in reverse.

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Date: 12/6/12 16:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
So Putin's actions over the last decade haven't given you any pause?

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Date: 12/6/12 17:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
not enough to vote for Romney.
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Date: 13/6/12 02:48 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
The USSR? :)

In this case, maybe. We've been getting played for some time now, and a change in that policy to show that we're not just sitting back and taking it, and that we actually realize it? Probably a good move.

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Date: 12/6/12 16:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
can he out-bid the Cock Koch brothers? Because if he can't, while I'll enjoy the continued death throes of the GOP while it eat's its own brain, I don't expect we'll see more ideologically impure candidates.

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Date: 12/6/12 17:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
which one is he? And if he is, why is he spending so much money on ideologically social conservatives?

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Date: 12/6/12 17:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
He paid for the theater at Lincoln Center that's named after him. The New York City opera performed there until last year.

Image

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Date: 14/6/12 15:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] merig00.livejournal.com
I was there two weekends ago for Ratmansky's "Bright Stream". Based on the list of donors it was his wife who contributed :D

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Date: 14/6/12 18:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
The building is named for him and he's known for his philanthropic causes in NYC. Maybe Ms. Koch underwrote the costs of the specific production you saw.

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Date: 13/6/12 05:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] glo-unit.livejournal.com
Here is an interesting profile on him:

http://nymag.com/news/features/67285/

Reading this and some of the comments he made about Obama, i would say long with the previously stated caring more about money first, he has is as or almost as paranoid about Socialism as his father was about Communism.

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Date: 13/6/12 14:39 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
“I played basketball when you could be white and be good,” he says.

Aaaaaand THAT's where I stopped. Asshole.

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Date: 13/6/12 06:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
"David Koch is on record as for gay rights, so maybe they can pair up."

I see what you did there ;)

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Date: 12/6/12 17:00 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] paedraggaidin.livejournal.com
One can hope....

What the anti-gay/"pro-family" wing of the GOP fails to see is that it is basically in the same position as conservative Democrats in the 1960s WRT civil rights: the most vocal wing of the party harbors an irrational and virulent hatred towards a subgroup (then, African-Americans; now, GLBT folks), papered over by a thin veneer of "community sensibilities," "family values," and cherry-picked verses from the Holy Bible taken out of context to support their beliefs (I certainly don't see various anti-gay Republicans abstaining from shrimp, for instance).

They're going to lose, too, it's just a matter of time. Republicans like Singer are starting to see the truth: that all the "limited government" rhetoric in the world is nothing more than pure hypocrisy when paired with a desire to use the government to deny civil rights to a minority group.

Maybe in fifty years, we'll have a gay president.

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Date: 12/6/12 17:25 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
Thing is, unlike the Dixiecrats, the antigay wing of the GOP has no place to go where they can have influence.

This is why the rise of the Tea Party is so important to the GOP - it's introduced more libertarian ideas to the Republican Party, and has shifted the focus largely away from social issues in favor of a broader platform that, generally speaking, most Republicans can get on board with.

Abortion is really the key remaining battleground - polling at least suggests that gay marriage is more an issue of concerns that churches will be forced to go along with it more than outright bigotry, and it's secondary on a federal level anyway.

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Date: 12/6/12 19:22 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] badlydrawnjeff.livejournal.com
I'm not sure if there's polling, but I'll take a look. The entire point of the movement, though, was economic and Constitutional in nature. There's absolutely some social overlap - that's to be expected. But it being the driving force, as it was from the 1980s up to Bush's election?

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Date: 12/6/12 22:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
Tea Party is the new name for the old Moral Majority anyway.

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Date: 12/6/12 23:27 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] meus-ovatio.livejournal.com
The Tea Party doesn't exist. Any poll is just "some other people", not real Tea Partiers.

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Date: 13/6/12 04:41 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
There was that "polling" at the South Carolina Republican debate, when the gay soldier asked the candidates about their ideas on the repeal of DADT. Remember the booing? And none of the candidates went back to address that during the debate, despite the fact they would wrestle each other almost to get in a last jab on why the other guy wasn't conservative enough.

For the what it's worth dept, that Captain and his partner were recently married in Washington, D.C. and have posted videos online to get gay marriage recognized in the military.
Edited Date: 13/6/12 04:44 (UTC)

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Date: 12/6/12 22:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I have a hard time believing they know anything about the economy at all. Just ask a Tea Party member to explain progressive taxation to you.

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Date: 13/6/12 08:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com
Nearly two-thirds of those polled, 63 percent, believed abortion should be illegal in all or most cases, and only 18 percent supported same-sex marriage." (http://abcnews.go.com/blogs/politics/2010/10/tea-party-closely-linked-to-religious-right-poll-finds/)

The Tea Party's really just a jumble of Republicans' furthest-right impulses.

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Date: 12/6/12 23:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politikitty.livejournal.com
Eh, I think this is what it would have looked like if the Party of Lincoln had passed Civil Rights.

The beliefs are dying. But there's still a lot of political mileage out there. Since they are unlikely to be the marginal vote on gay rights, there's no difference between being rabidly anti-gay and gay friendly. But they won't be getting the gay friendly vote, so they might as well do their best to appeal to the other side.

It's every bit as awkward as the double-talk of the Southern Strategy where the Republican Party has basically pitched itself as the party for racists without really doing much to turn back the Civil Right's Act. But racists and homophobes have money, and they don't actually police the results that much.

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Date: 13/6/12 08:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] nevermind6794.livejournal.com
And if they've completely lost, they stop canvassing and donating and whatnot. So the only way the antigay wing loses influence is if the Republicans pull an LBJ and give up the Christian conservative bloc for a long time, guaranteeing they lose a ton of elections along the way.

Eventually the electorate would really come around and Republicans could get back in the game, leaving the antigay wing totally marginalized - but given how regional the Republican Party really is, I can't picture them doing that anytime soon. I think it's more likely that they use gay marriage as a wedge issue to pick up black and Hispanic voters that tend to be more socially conservative than the national Democratic Party.

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Date: 13/6/12 19:09 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] politikitty.livejournal.com
I dunno. If there's something Republicans can't give up, it's accidentally talking about immigration like a bunch of racist dicks.

I mean, I know lots of Hispanic voters believe they (or their parents/grandparents/greatgrandparents) jumped through hoops like civilized folks and resent people who appear to avoid them. So the votes are there to get got. But Republicans can't market it without it sounding like they're bitter that the help won't learn English.

(But yes. Giving up the racist innuendo and instead pumping the Moral Majority would be a smart move for Republicans. It's where Bush wanted his presidency to go, before it got waylaid by international issues.)

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Date: 13/6/12 04:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
I read the title was Gay Empire. I for one welcome our fabulous overlords.

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Date: 13/6/12 06:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Hey! It'll be like, totally Ancient Greece!

With cell phones
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Date: 13/6/12 16:45 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Nah,

I meant the part about it that involved naked men and statues of naked men everywhere, and an impeccable eye for design :)
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Date: 13/6/12 16:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Image

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Behold, the army of the Gay Empire

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Date: 13/6/12 17:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] rimpala.livejournal.com
Also, I think I've forgot that the Gay Empire would be the Lesbian Empire and Bisexual Empire as well, not to mention the Transgender Empire.

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Date: 13/6/12 10:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
Recommended eet eez, then!

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