[identity profile] enders-shadow.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
This post got me thinking.

I am firmly in favor of:

A) A higher minimum wage in the whole US, and my home state of NY
B) Honesty in politics

While the OP I linked to is not exactly dishonest, it's not exactly honest either.
And this is not to put flak upon the poster there, but it's an example of political rhetoric that is used to leverage one side of a conversation, ignoring nuance.

the graphic in the linked to OP:

1) Doesn't seem to take into account state laws that raise min wage over fed laws
2) Doesn't take into account the vast difference in housing throughout a state

My objection is more with 2 than 1. 1 is easy to take care of, but 2 is not easy.

New York City is WAYYYY more expensive than Rochester or Buffalo, NY; or a large number of other places within the state I could name. Yet, this graphic gives us a number, presumably an average. But that average is way skewed. But how else should they do it? Give us on graphic for NYC and another for the rest of NY State? That wouldn't work either, because then you'd need to break it down for other cities and so on. So what do we do?

We must talk about things in the big picture without getting bogged down in details, otherwise we will have to talk for eons before we can understand what needs to be done. So while I agree that the min wage needs to go up, across the US, I have a problem with the info-graphics created to support that argument. They lack nuance, and as such, are deceiving. Even if they don't mean to be, and are honestly doing the best they can to compile and sort the data, the inevitability of misleading data is going to doom us all.

That said.
Happy saint patty's day.
Was I drunk when I wrote this? You decide.

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Date: 18/3/12 19:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com
If your business is so inefficient that a minimum wage increase breaks it, then you deserve to go out of business. Plenty of other places who actually run good business models will pick up the slack. And yes this applies to rural places too.

Hell, assuming all other things equal, you're raising prices with inflation anyway, and if you raise minimum wage to account for inflation, WHAT IS THE DIFFERENCE? And shit like 'gas prices rising' is COMPLETELY unrelated.

Labor costs are a vanishingly small amount of total costs for any business, even high-labor businesses. The idea that 40% of your employees get a 33% increase and that results in a 7% increase in 'a family meal' (rick_day already addressed why this is silly) is absurd. If the increase is consistent with the last 5 years of inflation if the minimum wage hasn't moved beforehand, you're not losing anything.

In fact, if minimum wage DOESN'T move with inflation, you're paying your employees less in real wages every year. If you're not making more money from this, your business sucks.

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