[identity profile] kylinrouge.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
TODAY is my last day at Goldman Sachs. After almost 12 years at the firm — first as a summer intern while at Stanford, then in New York for 10 years, and now in London — I believe I have worked here long enough to understand the trajectory of its culture, its people and its identity. And I can honestly say that the environment now is as toxic and destructive as I have ever seen it.

It doesn't help that there is momentum on the right to denounce the crisis as caused by 'too much regulation', when from the horse's own mouth you hear the opposite.

It makes me ill how callously people talk about ripping their clients off.Over the last 12 months I have seen five different managing directors refer to their own clients as “muppets,” sometimes over internal e-mail. Even after the S.E.C., Fabulous Fab, Abacus, God’s work, Carl Levin, Vampire Squids? No humility? I mean, come on. Integrity? It is eroding. I don’t know of any illegal behavior, but will people push the envelope and pitch lucrative and complicated products to clients even if they are not the simplest investments or the ones most directly aligned with the client’s goals? Absolutely. Every day, in fact.

It's apparent at this point that damage mitigation we conducted in 2008/9 was not enough. We need to make these people more accountable and protect investors and consumers. What can we do to stop these corrupt business practices? Is it even possible anymore, in this political climate, to reform our banking system?

The important thing to note is this isn't really about some specific culture at Goldman Sachs- it's about capitalism itself, taken to its extreme it's nothing but exploitation.

link: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/03/14/opinion/why-i-am-leaving-goldman-sachs.html

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Date: 15/3/12 21:56 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
Republicans like to talk about too much regulation, without ever talking about the RIGHT regulation.

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Date: 15/3/12 22:50 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
You should oppose Goldman Sachs and vote Obama out.

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Date: 16/3/12 00:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mrbogey.livejournal.com
Because people neglect that Obama was their candidate. Especially under the CEO the op-ed mentions as being part of the decline.

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Date: 16/3/12 01:19 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dwer.livejournal.com
I have never cast a vote for Barak Obama, and I never shall. 1/2 bad is less bad than all bad, however.
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Date: 16/3/12 03:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
i wonder who is the green-party this year?

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Date: 16/3/12 06:52 (UTC)

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Date: 16/3/12 11:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vehemencet-t.livejournal.com
As far as I can tell, Ron Paul (if he were elected mind you, which because of his laudable opposition to some very powerful entrenched interests does not appear likely given the way the system is stacked in their favor) might make things either just as bad or possibly enable them to get worse, simply from the angle that some of his words make me think he favors businesses over individuals, probably a result of his libertarian origins (such as the whole "a woman experiencing sexual harassment from her boss might try finding another employer" bullshit) and would basically give them free reign (as little regulation as possible to put the "free" in free market etc).

Now I'm all for pushing government out of our affairs, but to leave the corporations we have in place to do as they please strikes me as just as bad, because it doesn't deal with the core problems of capitalism such as gross inequalities, exploitation of workers etc. Just a thought.

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Date: 15/3/12 21:59 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] hardblue.livejournal.com
What timing! I just came upon this.

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People are making fun of this piece by Greg Smith where he talks about his disillusionment with the culture at Goldman Sachs. Smith claims the only focus at GS is making money and people openly disdain the customer. He’s being mocked for thinking it could possibly be otherwise.

But I was reminded of this 1950 quote from George Merck who was president of the pharmaceutical company:


"We try never to forget that medicine is for the people. It is not for the profits. The profits follow, and if we have remembered that, they have never failed to appear."

-- Russ Roberts at Cafe Hayek (http://cafehayek.com/2012/03/the-right-way-to-make-money.html)

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Date: 16/3/12 03:24 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
OMG - I am so in dire need of that quote and didn't even know it :O) wow thanks *using it*

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Date: 15/3/12 22:49 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] tcpip.livejournal.com
Goes to show how organisations - as well as as individuals - can easily lose their sense of ethical behaviour if there iss no systematic imperative that encourages right behaviour.

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Date: 15/3/12 22:55 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
Ha, calling their clients "Muppets" and then Kermie was on Steven Colbert's coverage of this story last night ;)

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Date: 15/3/12 23:10 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] ytterbius.livejournal.com
What we need is for clients, particularly top clients, to leave. Problem is that GS has certain advantages that no other broker has.

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Date: 16/3/12 00:15 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] devil-ad-vocate.livejournal.com
The friendly people on your commercial airliner refer to passengers as "geese".

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Date: 16/3/12 01:08 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] caerfrli.livejournal.com
call me a cynic but I keep wondering if Smith quit because some shit was about to hit the fan and he wanted to get his story out premptively.

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Date: 16/3/12 01:31 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
human nature, taken to its extreme its nothing but exploitation.

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Date: 16/3/12 03:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
our best guard against that is culture of ethics. i think we have failed in that regard.

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Date: 16/3/12 03:26 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
so when the capitalistic structure favors the mind keen at exploiting resources, how hard is it for a moral person to climb to the top?

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Date: 16/3/12 03:29 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
not hard, if your society favors the moral mind.

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Date: 16/3/12 03:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
so what has happened along the way to have caused our society to be comprised of so much loose morale?

what are we as a society doing generationally to cause such an existence?

you don't have to answer - i'm not even going to attempt it...i just can't help but wonder

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Date: 16/3/12 03:40 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] whoasksfinds.livejournal.com
modern society is shallow and always seeking instant gratification. i blame television!

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Date: 16/3/12 03:44 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] il-mio-gufo.livejournal.com
by far, we do not practice sustainability in so many more areas than just energy

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Date: 16/3/12 03:23 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mikeyxw.livejournal.com
I'm not too sure what the problem is with GS providing poor service to their customers. GS management can keep on being as shitty as they want to their customers and shareholders, as long as we don't have to pick up the pieces, it's not our probelm. It will probably be impossible to solve through regulation, most of the people who understand the problem enough to write good legislation are working for Wall Street or lobbying on their behalf.

What we should do is ensure that pension funds and municipalities stop buying stuff they can't understand and maybe stop buying stuff from companies who seem to be ripping them off... over an over. Seriously, why would anyone buy financial products from GS these days is beyond me.

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Date: 16/3/12 11:42 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] vehemencet-t.livejournal.com
SOOO hilarious!

Now if only the Batallions of the USMC (http://SOOO hilarious! Now if only the Batallions of the USMC would get this message through their skulls (pun intended!)) would get this message through their skulls (pun intended!)

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Date: 16/3/12 07:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] squidb0i.livejournal.com
Given how divorced from reality so depressingly many people are, the obvious needs to be stated all the time.

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Date: 16/3/12 07:54 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] kardashev.livejournal.com
"Is it even possible anymore, in this political climate, to reform our banking system?"

Since A)both parties have shown a willingness to whore themselves out bareback style to the very banks that need to be reformed and B)most Americans are still a bunch of dumb smiling sheeple who won't throw these two parties out into the street to beg for spare change, I'm going to say it's highly unlikely in the near future.

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