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Today, President Obama unveiled his latest plan to reform the corporate tax structure. I'm not too curious about the community's thoughts on this overall since I'm fairly sure we all know where we all sit on Obama making good/bad choices here, but I do have a more general question:
Why have a corporate tax rate at all?
I'd like to think we all agree on these basic points:
a) The corporate tax rate is not really paid by the corporation or business in question. Taxes are simply another cost that is levied on a company, a cost recouped through fewer services, lower wages/employment, higher prices, or some combination therein. It's not an issue of "fair share," really, since we're all paying it.
b) Our corporate tax rate is comparatively high when stacked up against other nations. We're #1 in the OECD at 35%. Canada, directly to our north, is at 15%. And that's without factoring in the corporate tax rates of individual states. Whether you think this matters much is up to you.
c) We only tax profits, and that's proper: If a company doesn't make a profit, it's not paying that tax rate. It's one reason why many corporations don't end up having a tax obligation.
d) We offer a lot of tax credits and opportunities to lower the effective rate: From green energy tax credits to employment credits, even profitable companies are able to reduce their effective rate to zero - or lower.
e) Corporate taxes account for a fairly small amount of overall receipts: Well under $250b in 2010.
So the question I pose is this - if you're in favor of a corporate tax at all, why? Is it worth it given what we all know and agree on? Is the value of getting $220b in revenue from the corporations worth it?
Why have a corporate tax rate at all?
I'd like to think we all agree on these basic points:
a) The corporate tax rate is not really paid by the corporation or business in question. Taxes are simply another cost that is levied on a company, a cost recouped through fewer services, lower wages/employment, higher prices, or some combination therein. It's not an issue of "fair share," really, since we're all paying it.
b) Our corporate tax rate is comparatively high when stacked up against other nations. We're #1 in the OECD at 35%. Canada, directly to our north, is at 15%. And that's without factoring in the corporate tax rates of individual states. Whether you think this matters much is up to you.
c) We only tax profits, and that's proper: If a company doesn't make a profit, it's not paying that tax rate. It's one reason why many corporations don't end up having a tax obligation.
d) We offer a lot of tax credits and opportunities to lower the effective rate: From green energy tax credits to employment credits, even profitable companies are able to reduce their effective rate to zero - or lower.
e) Corporate taxes account for a fairly small amount of overall receipts: Well under $250b in 2010.
So the question I pose is this - if you're in favor of a corporate tax at all, why? Is it worth it given what we all know and agree on? Is the value of getting $220b in revenue from the corporations worth it?
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Date: 23/2/12 02:53 (UTC)The problem with this argument and its reliance on the "double taxation" concept is that eliminating the "double tax" results in this kind of transparency only if you either (i) have a direct flow-through of profits from corporations to shareholders and/or (ii) shareholders pay income tax on the capital gain they realize when they sell their stock.
To see this, imagine what happens in a world where corporations aren't taxed on their profits. Do they make timely dividend payments to their shareholders that can then be taxed? No, of course not. The Board retains that value. That results in an increase to enterprise and shareholder value, which isn't taxed, that likely would correspond to a higher sale price for shares in the corporation. If the shareholders then sell their shares, they would receive a capital gain on the price they originally paid, which would be taxed at a preferential rate in our system. So, they're basically avoiding income tax by converting it into capital gain. Note that, for public securities, the conversion becomes even easier - it'd be like a piggy bank. You buy stock for $100 today; a year from now the company has $10 attributable to your stock in profits that they retain; your stock becomes worth $110; you sell that stock and then buy $100 worth of stock. Then you have $10 of income and $100 stock, but you pay only capital gains on your "investment."
Now, I understand that you think that capital investment is so valuable that we ought to tax it at a preferential rate (though this has never been explained to me adequately), but the question is, here, whether we ought to recognize that $10 profit, which derives from income to the company - i.e., the difference between the cost of producing a product or service and the price received for selling it and not from capital appreciation - as a "capital gain" worthy of such a preferential rate.
Basically, it's tax structuring on the cheap. My clients are always looking for this kind of result - zeroing out corporate taxes would make it available to everyone.