[identity profile] sophia-sadek.livejournal.com posting in [community profile] talkpolitics
Some military dudes stuck their noses in our networking facility the other day. They were curious about our school. One of them wanted to know if we believed in Christ. He was promptly informed of our doctrine on the matter: Christ is an eternal form. He returned again and again, but the Church kept burning him at the stake. What should we expect from a bunch of Pharisees? Even their main honcho was a Pharisee. The martial practitioner was satisfied that we are dedicated to education and the elevation of the human spirit.

A number of years ago I was curious why Christians have such a long track record of vicious brutality. What drives them to mug the Samaritan and leave him for dead by the side of the road? What is the source of this thuggery?

In order to answer the primary research question, I started to look into Christian literature. Augustine of Hippo (nothing to do with the fat river denizen) popped up in a number of texts. That led me to read his memoirs and his magnum opus inspired by the sack of Rome. This was the answer to my research question. Augustine was the source of degradation within the Christian tradition. Further research proved that my first impression was incorrect. Augustine was only one in a long line of charlatans going all the way back to the days of Peter, Paul, and Judas.

Still, Augustine gives us an idea of the degrading mechanisms of charlatan theology. His work is replete with techniques for exploiting people by abusing sacred texts and creating false paradigms. He rightly ridicules Pagans for believing the fabulous stories of criminal deities, but he asserts that the fabulous aspects of Jewish tradition are absolutely true. He recognizes the spherical nature of the Earth, but he abuses Jewish legend in order to rationalize the Church's flat-Earth dogma denying the existence of the Antipodes. He recognizes the existence of figurative meaning in sacred literature, but uses it to buttress literalistic despotism.

One of our students pointed out that the difference between Augustine and Jesus was that the latter learned from Pagans. Augustine expended a great deal of ink in condemning the works of Pagans that could have given him insight into the mission of Jesus. Instead, Augustine became just another Pharisee. It is no wonder that other Christians of his own day considered Augustine to be a crook. He was a con-artist who did a disservice to Jewish culture, the work of Jesus, and especially the people he successfully deceived.

Augustine places his City above the earthly urb. It seems to me that the earthly city deserves more credit. There is a higher polity, but we will not experience it by following the lead of Augustine. His sheepish facade poorly masks his canine features.

After a few hundred years the Vatican eventually recognized the value of Galileo. Do you suppose they will ever recognize the viciousness of Augustine?

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Date: 31/1/12 15:47 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Quick! Let's talk about dystopia cuz the month is almost over! :p

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Date: 31/1/12 17:34 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] abomvubuso.livejournal.com
If you dare to talk about dystopia from tomorrow, you'll be handed to the men in black!

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Date: 31/1/12 18:07 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
I like men in black so I'll take the risk.

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Date: 31/1/12 15:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] the-rukh.livejournal.com
You and underlankers should have a historical fiction competition.

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Date: 31/1/12 17:14 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] mahnmut.livejournal.com
More like the Ron Hubbard Award.

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Date: 31/1/12 17:38 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] underlankers.livejournal.com
I take offense at that. I write *alternate* history fiction, it's much nerdier.

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Date: 31/1/12 15:53 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] telemann.livejournal.com
What an absolutely reductionist reading of both history, and Augustine of Hippo.

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Date: 31/1/12 16:51 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] malasadas.livejournal.com
That led me to read his memoirs and his magnum opus inspired by the sack of Rome. This was the answer to my research question. Augustine was the source of degradation within the Christian tradition.

Okay, we've got the claim and the purported evidence.

What you are missing is the warrant that explains why the evidence from Augustine's memoirs and "magnum opus" actually supports your claim.

Right now this is the discursive equivalent of never using your turn signal when driving: You know where you are going. G-d knows where you are going. Everyone else is completely baffled and increasingly annoyed.

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Date: 31/1/12 16:56 (UTC)
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I've become convinced that the number of words you expend on a subject is directly proportional to your ignorance of it. If you ever wrote a one line post it might qaproximate reality. Not much chance of that, I'm thinking.

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Date: 31/1/12 17:16 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luzribeiro.livejournal.com
Pst! We may need the occasional non-Friday Friday lulz!

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Date: 31/1/12 21:13 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] dzlk.livejournal.com
I'm guessing q-approximation is the advanced statistical technique used in decoding a [livejournal.com profile] sophia_sadek post into something intelligible to humans?

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Date: 31/1/12 17:20 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] luvdovz.livejournal.com
I hope you don't teach History. Please say it's Maths.

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Date: 1/2/12 00:25 (UTC)
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If it wasn't for the obvious difference in style, I'd have pegged this as a bit from a Chick tract, but as it is, I imagine he uses stuff like this for reference.

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Date: 1/2/12 05:33 (UTC)
From: [identity profile] foolsguinea.livejournal.com
Well, I found this interesting, especially the bits that elucidate your own beliefs. I kind of agree that Augustine, from what little I know of him, comes off as a louse.

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